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10 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Targeting guys with mechanical flaws in their swings could be genius.

That being said I don't pick Grenier that high unless I have a pre-draft deal in place for substantial pool savings.

Agreed.

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It really feels like the guys drafting are the only ones in the organization with a plan. It could just be that it looks good compared to the dumpster fire that is the recent management of the ML roster I admit. Either way  I’ll give the scouting department a little benefit of the doubt here. They liked the athletic SS and probably think they can squeeze a little more out of him. I’m in.

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3 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

Targeting guys with mechanical flaws in their swings could be genius.

That being said I don't pick Grenier that high unless I have a pre-draft deal in place for substantial pool savings.

I hate the Grenier pick (and the first pick) but do have more confidence in us developing hitters than pitchers. 

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Thanks Luke.

You mentioned in the article that college SS are less likely to stay at SS in the majors. Why is that? I would have thought that it would be the high school SS's because their bodies hadn't filled out and there was more of a chance that they would grow out of being SS's. 

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6 hours ago, panick said:

Thanks Luke.

You mentioned in the article that college SS are less likely to stay at SS in the majors. Why is that? I would have thought that it would be the high school SS's because their bodies hadn't filled out and there was more of a chance that they would grow out of being SS's. 

Because it’s really high bar to play SS in the majors and the players who have the tools to do so are usually drafted very highly out of HS and don’t end up going to college.

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2 hours ago, Luke-OH said:

Because it’s really high bar to play SS in the majors and the players who have the tools to do so are usually drafted very highly out of HS and don’t end up going to college.

What percentage of MLB SS are from the foreign market as well?  Athleticism up the middle is going to be an uphill climb  for the O's until they put some money into Latin America.  

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8 minutes ago, ScGO's said:

What percentage of MLB SS are from the foreign market as well?  Athleticism up the middle is going to be an uphill climb  for the O's until they put some money into Latin America.  

That's definitely where a good portion of the SS talent in the majors comes from. It's like 30% of the current starting shortstops.

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