Jump to content

Jonathan Villar- Our new 2B?

Greg Pappas

By Greg Pappas
in Orioles Talk

Recommended Posts

Greg Pappas Hangout Grand Counsel

Greg Pappas

Posted
Posted

One of the players from the Schoop trade has arrived, in 27-year old veteran infielder, Jonathan Villar.  His last name is pronounced "vee-Yar".  He was added to to the 25-man roster today, per Roch. 
 


What do you think about Villar?  He's stolen bases well in the past and had an outstanding 2016.  It seems he's someone that could regain value... but I wouldn't expect it.  

Thoughts on him? Will he take over 2B regularly?

Link to comment
Share on other sites
  • Replies 465
  • Created
  • Last Reply
Ruzious Hangout Grand Counsel

Ruzious

Posted
Posted

He didn't just steal 60 plus bases, he had an OPS+ of 117 in 2016 - at age 25.  62 steals and 60 XBH's and 79 walks.  I'd have thought he was one of the top young assets in baseball.  Since then, his OPS+ fell to 71 last year and has rebounded a little to 84 this season.  Yeah, maybe we get lucky, and he does regain some value.  As long as he's healthy, he should be starting.  

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Greg Pappas Hangout Grand Counsel

Greg Pappas

Posted
  • Author
Posted
5 minutes ago, Ruzious said:

He didn't just steal 60 plus bases, he had an OPS+ of 117 in 2016 - at age 25.  62 steals and 60 XBH's and 79 walks.  I'd have thought he was one of the top young assets in baseball.  Since then, his OPS+ fell to 71 last year and has rebounded a little to 84 this season.  Yeah, maybe we get lucky, and he does regain some value.  As long as he's healthy, he should be starting.  

I edited the OP to note his outstanding 2016... thank you.  He's the wild card in the deal.  He's had one truly full season, two years ago, and was very good. Since then, not so much,.  However, as you alluded to, it's possible he regains his prior form and becomes a surprisingly positive addition.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Tx Oriole Hangout Grand Counsel

Tx Oriole

Posted
Posted
22 minutes ago, Greg Pappas said:

One of the players from the Schoop trade has arrived, in 27-year old veteran infielder, Jonathan Villar.  He was added to to the 25-man roster today, per Roch. 
 


What do you think about Villar?  He's stolen bases well in the past and had an outstanding 2016.  It seems he's someone that could regain value... but I wouldn't expect it.  

Thoughts on him? Will he take over 2B regularly?

I am happy to have him on the O's. I'm optimistic about him. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Il BuonO Hangout Grand Counsel

Il BuonO

Posted
Posted
7 minutes ago, Greg Pappas said:

What have his defensive numbers looked like?

He’s +6 DRS this year and for his career at 2B. Below average at 3B and well below that at SS. Schoop was slightly above this year and 6 DRS for his career.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Greg Pappas Hangout Grand Counsel

Greg Pappas

Posted
  • Author
Posted
2 minutes ago, Il BuonO said:

He’s +6 DRS this year and for his career at 2B. Below average at 3B and well below that at SS. Schoop was slightly above this year and 6 DRS for his career.

So, essentially he's a solid defender at 2B, but not so great elsewhere?

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Aristotelian Hangout Grand Counsel

Aristotelian

Posted
Posted

I like him. Could be a poor man's Brian Roberts. Has a chance to stick at 2B with our lack of options. Honestly he may not be a downgrade from Schoop, although he is a very different kind of player. I remember when he stole home straight up on Chen when he was on the Astros.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing


  • Posts

    • LookitsPuck
      2024 Playoff ticket availability

      By LookitsPuck · Posted

      They also haven’t announced the times, yet.
    • Aristotelian
      Cade Povich 2024

      By Aristotelian · Posted

      Well, I don't like to predict things on message boards but my prediction is we will not acquire two pitchers with a better Zips projection than Kremer. I would be more surprised by two than I would be by zero.
    • DirtyBird
      Cade Povich 2024

      By DirtyBird · Posted

      You can’t ignore how he pitched against Detroit and the makeup of their roster. He has more value than even Suarez if that is who we end up playing.
    • SteveA
      Wild card series roll call

      By SteveA · Posted

      So it is different from last year? Last year the games were something like 3:00, 4:30, 7:00, and 8:30.   Have they said it will be different this year???
    • gamiliel
      Wild card series roll call

      By gamiliel · Posted

      Me too. Driving 4 hours to have a father daughter date. Can't wait!
    • Sports Guy
      AL playoff picture

      By Sports Guy · Posted

      The discussion about Cle vs NYY is interesting. The Os always struggle at Cle and their BP is awesome but the starters are meh and so is the offense. I prefer to play NY. Worse pen, doesn’t run as much.  Not a bunch of contact hitters.  
    • Jammer7
      Winter 2024 40-Man Additions

      By Jammer7 · Posted

      Bautista, if he is back to his old self, would be a big addition. Dominguez and Soto have to improve the walk rate. They certainly have swing and miss, but at a significant cost. Cano can throw up in the zone and get misses, but he is used so often he is rarely sharp. He is used to induce ground balls, and the sinker is fairly effective when he is tired.  Akin, Webb and Coulombe are getting some swing and miss. They are all above average in swinging strike percentage, according to FanGraphs. MLB average is generally around 11.2% from year to year, and Akin (second on the Orioles behind Grayson 13.6) is at 13.2, Dominguez 12.4, Cano 12.2, Soto 12.9, Webb 11.8, Coulombe is 9.9 and Cionel 9.5. In fairness to Coulombe (11.8) and Webb (13.7), they are higher over the last three years. They have not been healthy for a fair amount of this season and pitched through some things that made those numbers dip, perhaps.  Bautista was 18% in the same period of 2022-2024. He would be 11th in MLB in 2024. No other Oriole is in the top 100 in MLB. Grayson Rodriguez is at #120. It should be noted that Andrew Walters is at 18.8, ranking 7th. He was our unsigned 18th round pick in 2022. All of that aside, I am not sure the pen is structured the same as in recent years. There may be some moves there. Or, perhaps it is like you wrote, and they focus on Soto and Dominguez making adjustments to having more command, decreasing the walks. Those two are getting a little expensive as well. I guess we’ll see.   

  • Popular Contributors

×
×
  • Create New...