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2 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

Moose,

You really think that Jeter and the Marlins front office are going to turn it around.

Now if you said, come sign with us, and in 3 years, you will be wearing Oriole pinstripes. That might be closer to the truth. :)

I like Jeter's chances better than ours, for sure.

 

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3 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

My nightmare is, we sign him for 6.5 million, he comes here, and sucks worse than Puig, and then day after day of posts in OH, OMG, why did those indiots in the FO not see he was bad and not sign the guy.

The Puig who has put up a 17 WAR career?  Man, that guy sucks. 

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2 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

My nightmare is, we sign him for 6.5 million, he comes here, and sucks worse than Puig, and then day after day of posts in OH, OMG, why did those indiots in the FO not see he was bad and not sign the guy.

With nothing else to spend the money on most folks would view it as an acceptable risk even if he doesn't pan out.

I think Grenier is going to bust, if he does I can point to the fact they burned a first round pick on him when he was viewed as a 2-3 round talent.  They had other attractive options where they picked Grenier.  No other options exist if they don't sign VVM.

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4 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

My nightmare is, we sign him for 6.5 million, he comes here, and sucks worse than Puig, and then day after day of posts in OH, OMG, why did those indiots in the FO not see he was bad and not sign the guy.

Would that really be that awful though? Chris Davis contract is a nightmare, spending money thats already allocated to international players and then applying it to one that doesn't work out really doesn't seem that bad.

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2 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

My nightmare is, we sign him for 6.5 million, he comes here, and sucks worse than Puig, and then day after day of posts in OH, OMG, why did those indiots in the FO not see he was bad and not sign the guy.

Puig may be a headcase, but he hasn't been a total bust from a numbers perspective. He would have easily been our best outfielder this season. 23 hrs / 15 sbs in only 405 at bats...and he had comparable numbers last season. I take that in a heart beat from Mesa if he can play solid defense. 

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4 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

I think if you talk to Marlin fans, they want to hang Jeter in the air, and throw darts at him.

There is no love in Miami for Jeter right now.

Just because he did what he had to do, which was trade Stanton.  But anyone with a clue should have realized the second he agreed to that contract, there was no way they could afford it and they'd end up trading him anyway.  

Jeter will figure it out.  I don't like typing that, but I believe it.

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Just now, Moose Milligan said:

Just because he did what he had to do, which was trade Stanton.  But anyone with a clue should have realized the second he agreed to that contract, there was no way they could afford it and they'd end up trading him anyway.  

Jeter will figure it out.  I don't like typing that, but I believe it.

He did more than trade Stanton. 

How about that Christian Yelich eh, what a season he had.  He made 7M and put up 7.6 rWAR.

How about the way they fired Mr Marlin?

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4 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

Just because he did what he had to do, which was trade Stanton.  But anyone with a clue should have realized the second he agreed to that contract, there was no way they could afford it and they'd end up trading him anyway.  

Jeter will figure it out.  I don't like typing that, but I believe it.

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He kept the payroll one of the lowest in baseball and defended it by saving that signing free agents wouldn’t have made a difference. Bereft of talent, the Marlins (18-30) have the second worst record in the National League and the worst run differential in the league (minus-86). Not surprisingly, Miami is dead last in attendance too (10,603 per game).

And that’s just on the field. He has stoked the wrath of the fans with other moves. He asked out-going Marlins president David Samson to fire people, including Marlins legends Andre Dawson, Tony Perez, Jack McKeon, and Jeff Conine. And oh by the way, Jeter is contractually incentivized for cutting team payroll.

Its way more involved then just Stanton.

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2 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

He did more than trade Stanton. 

How about that Christian Yelich eh, what a season he had.  He made 7M and put up 7.6 rWAR.

How about the way they fired Mr Marlin?

The fans are really not happy with Mr. Yankee

https://thecomeback.com/mlb/derek-jeter-has-only-derek-jeter-to-blame-for-the-marlins-embarrassing-recent-off-the-field-miscues.html

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1 minute ago, Redskins Rick said:

I don't blame Jeter, I think he's a yes man for the owners.  This way he stays in the limelight and rakes in an equity share in a ML team.

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