Astros punishment unveiled...

[Absltgreek]

Just now, dtk9119 said:

How is Mike Elias not affected by all of this? He worked for Luhnow and from what I've heard, the entire front office knew about the cheating. Ive not seen Elias mentioned anywhere in the breaking news.. At least explaining why he will not be penalized or not.

After having read the report it seemed pretty clear the baseball operations department didn't know or wasn't involved. There were no indications or mentions that Mike or Sig were anywhere close to being involved.

[Snutchy]

Cora will be banned for life.

[24fps]

I expected considerably less. I hope this sends a clear message to the other 17 teams that didn't get caught.

[LookinUp]

5 minutes ago, Snutchy said:

Cora will be banned for life.

Now THAT would be too much, IMO. I do think a very significant penalty is warranted.

[Going Underground]

16 minutes ago, Absltgreek said:

After having read the report it seemed pretty clear the baseball operations department didn't know or wasn't involved. There were no indications or mentions that Mike or Sig were anywhere close to being involved.

I am sure they knew. Many in baseball had a good idea what was going on. But direct involvement probably not.

[Absltgreek]

Wow, multiple Tweets including Rosenthal that Jim Crane has fired both Luhnow and Hinch.

 

https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/1216813978988490752

[Going Underground]

1 minute ago, Absltgreek said:

Wow, multiple Tweets including Rosenthal that Jim Crane has fired both Luhnow and Hinch.

 

https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/1216813978988490752

MLBTR said it has happened. Astros might fall fast. Glad they had that few year run. The farm system was going down and now losing draft picks.

[weams]

 

[ArtVanDelay]

16 minutes ago, LookinUp said:

Now THAT would be too much, IMO. I do think a very significant penalty is warranted.

He was much more involved than Hinch, apparently.  I wouldn’t be shocked at a lifetime ban for Cora.

[scOtt]

24 minutes ago, Snutchy said:

Cora will be banned for life.

Since he was directly involved in both the Astros and Red Sox cheating, he well may be banned.

[atomic]

Seems too light.  Luhnow and Hinch should have gotten more.  This won't stop managers from cheating.  If you only get 1 year out of the game.  I am fine with the draft pick loses punishment but managers trying to keep their job won't be stopped by a slap on the wrist 1 year punishment.

[atomic]

38 minutes ago, Absltgreek said:

Wow, multiple Tweets including Rosenthal that Jim Crane has fired both Luhnow and Hinch.

 

https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/1216813978988490752

Good they should never work in baseball again.

[atomic]

36 minutes ago, weams said:

 

I think as an assistant, knowing about it and not being part of it is going to save you from punishment.  

[atomic]

57 minutes ago, Snutchy said:

Cora will be banned for life.

Nevermind: You are right.  Reading more about this Cora was the mastermind for the Astros.  He probably won't be involved in baseball anymore.  

[weams]

11 minutes ago, atomic said:

I think as an assistant, knowing about it and not being part of it is going to save you from punishment.  

There is no mention of Elias. Or Sig. Who quit the Astros with no job and went back to corporate work.  I assume at some point both were made aware. These are not dumb men.