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3 hours ago, now said:

Hmm, I'm getting a strong deja vu looking at this list:

* Zac Lowther had a 2.55 ERA (13-7, age 23)
* Alexander Wells had a 2.95 ERA (8-6, age 22)
* Michael Baumann had a 2.31 ERA (6-2, age 23)
* Dean Kremer had a 2.98 ERA (9-4, age 23)
* Bruce Zimmermann had a 2.58 ERA (5-3, age 24)

... going back to Bowie's staff (division champs) in 2008:

* Jason Berken 12-4, 3.58, age 24
* Brad Bergesen 15-6, 3.22, age 22
* David Hernandez 10-4, 2.68, age 23
* Chris Tillman 11-4, 3.18, age 20
* Zach Clark 4-2, 3.60, age 24

Gaudy W-L records aside, that earlier squad had ERAs roughly a run worse than our current "band" of hopefuls. It produced one decent ML starter (Tillman) and reliever (Hernandez). Obviously Tillman's age at that level sets him apart. Otherwise I like our chances of improving the overall outcome in future MLB ceilings. What do you in-house talent scouts think of this comp?

Thing that stands out to me is ERAs are even better with current group.  
 

Tough to compare when there is different leadership now too.  New theory’s and technology used with current group.  Time will only tell.

 

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I follow this account on Twitter and thought this was a very interesting tweet that they sent yesterday. Note that they are not an Orioles account. It's a baseball account in general, so their observa

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Between 364 and 729.    Oh, you meant they’ll pitch 2-4 innings more than once.  In that case, I have no idea.     

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7 or 8, probably. I'm not impressed until I am.  IMO, we've got a bunch of Rick Krivdas, Jimmy Haynes and Rocky Coppingers here, until proven otherwise.  Seen this one too many times before.

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5 hours ago, now said:

Hmm, I'm getting a strong deja vu looking at this list:

* Zac Lowther had a 2.55 ERA (13-7, age 23)
* Alexander Wells had a 2.95 ERA (8-6, age 22)
* Michael Baumann had a 2.31 ERA (6-2, age 23)
* Dean Kremer had a 2.98 ERA (9-4, age 23)
* Bruce Zimmermann had a 2.58 ERA (5-3, age 24)

... going back to Bowie's staff (division champs) in 2008:

* Jason Berken 12-4, 3.58, age 24
* Brad Bergesen 15-6, 3.22, age 22
* David Hernandez 10-4, 2.68, age 23
* Chris Tillman 11-4, 3.18, age 20
* Zach Clark 4-2, 3.60, age 24

Gaudy W-L records aside, that earlier squad had ERAs roughly a run worse than our current "band" of hopefuls. It produced one decent ML starter (Tillman) and reliever (Hernandez). Obviously Tillman's age at that level sets him apart. Otherwise I like our chances of improving the overall outcome in future MLB ceilings. What do you in-house talent scouts think of this comp?

Talent level is vastly better with this current group imo.

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Talent level is vastly better with this current group imo.

Hope so.   I think Tillman had more national recognition than anyone on last year’s Bowie staff, though.  BA had him at 22nd, BP 16th after that 2008 season.   I’d actually be pretty pleased if anyone on last year’s Bowie staff had a five-year run like Tillman had in 2012-16.    I really liked Tilly; it’s a shame that his shoulder didn’t hold up.   

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Hope so.   I think Tillman had more national recognition than anyone on last year’s Bowie staff, though.  BA had him at 22nd, BP 16th after that 2008 season.   I’d actually be pretty pleased if anyone on last year’s Bowie staff had a five-year run like Tillman had in 2012-16.    I really liked Tilly; it’s a shame that his shoulder didn’t hold up.   

Yea, Tillman was the highest ranked guy although I never understood why.

But as a group, I think these guys are more talented.

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Because his stuff projected to work the best at the major league level?

They weren't wrong.

Yea but I never saw a  top 20 prospect in all of baseball.  I also wondered why teams didn’t light him up.  Never really impressed me even when he was having good years.

Of course, he probably had a better career than a lot of the guys who have been ranked that high.  

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Yea but I never saw a  top 20 prospect in all of baseball.  I also wondered why teams didn’t light him up.  Never really impressed me even when he was having good years.

Of course, he probably had a better career than a lot of the guys who have been ranked that high.  

Oh, I get it.

I thought you meant you didn't see why he was rated higher than the rest of that group. 

I'll agree that Tillman didn't strike me as a top 20 in all of baseball prospect.

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