Jordan Lyles 2023?

[LookinUp]

3 minutes ago, baltfan said:

Lyles has been integral to this teams success this year.  His innings and ability to stay healthy have allowed the bullpen to stay reasonably well-rested. He has gone 5+ innings in 19 of his 23 starts.  In 2 of the others, he went 4+ innings.  One time he didn't get out of the 3rd inning.  There is value for a bullpen to this consistency.  Guys getting blown-up in the first can really kill a bullpen.  If he goes, the Orioles need a similar style guy (innings and health) next year.  It's clear that Sig has a way to value this in his model and they prioritized signing Lyles early. 

It all depends on what else you add. If you add 2 starters plus Rodriguez, it it worth keeping Lyles as a starter over Wells or Kremer? At $11 million? 

Ok, so they go to the pen and  you get rid of who from there? Is that upgrade worth $11 million?

One could argue that having Lyles as your #5 starter really lets you be careful with your other young starters, saves the pen, etc. It's a fair argument for sure. That's the case for him.

[emmett16]

2 minutes ago, LookinUp said:

It all depends on what else you add. If you add 2 starters plus Rodriguez, it it worth keeping Lyles as a starter over Wells or Kremer? At $11 million? 

Ok, so they go to the pen and  you get rid of who from there? Is that upgrade worth $11 million?

One could argue that having Lyles as your #5 starter really lets you be careful with your other young starters, saves the pen, etc. It's a fair argument for sure. That's the case for him.

The argument for Lyles is that any given year almost half your staff will get injured.  You need 8 starting pitchers to get through the year.  Having Lyles gives you an insurance policy if/when other pitchers get hurt.  The question is whether or not you want to pay $11M for that insurance policy.  

[LookinUp]

2 minutes ago, emmett16 said:

The argument for Lyles is that any given year almost half your staff will get injured.  You need 8 starting pitchers to get through the year.  Having Lyles gives you an insurance policy if/when other pitchers get hurt.  The question is whether or not you want to pay $11M for that insurance policy.  

By the way, I'm not sure I buy the idea that he's assured to be as healthy moving forward as he has been in the past. There's still a risk that you're paying $11 million for a guy who has TJ surgery in April. Maybe it's less likely with him. I don't know, but he's still a pitcher.