Cubs trade DeRosa to Indians; Does this mean Pie for Olson back on??

[jcroemer]

Whenb have I ever said anything about his trades. I've said many a time he did very well and supported those moves. That being said I've said he needs to do more and not rest on those few deals.

How does making a deal just to make a deal help us? How do we know we were ever offered fair value on anybody on our roster?

[Hank Scorpio]

Marquis and Derosa

vs

Bradley, Miles, Vizcano, three pitching prospects added to the system

I think they are better.

They'll be better if they can swing the Peavy deal.

Three mid to low level pitchers isn't "talent" IMO.

[El Gordo]

A lot of talk on MLB XM about the DeRosa trade setting up a Peavy and/or Roberts trade. It only makes sense to me if one of these things happen.

[allstar1579]

BB is talking of a chance for a Peavy trade.

I wouldn't count on that. I don't think the Cubs can take on more salary until after the completed sale, which was the need to dump Marquis before, but with trading DeRosa and signing Bradley, they are picking up a chunk of the money they just cleared. Bradley will cost about the same as Marquis did.

[JTrea81]

A lot of talk on MLB XM about the DeRosa trade setting up a Peavy and/or Roberts trade. It only makes sense to me if one of these things happen.

I doubt Miles is going to be a 4 million dollar bench player, possible but not likely...

[Stotle]

Marquis and Derosa

vs

Bradley, Miles, Vizcano, three pitching prospects added to the system

I think they are better.

This is almost identical to:

Hernandez

vs,

Izturis, Freel, Waring, Hendrickson and Turner

Hendry is a hard-working, capable GM. MacPhail is plodding along...

[jcroemer]

Bigbird... it is apparent what your contact thinks about MacPhail.... what about the rest of the FO?

No kidding... these daily "held hostage" threads are getting silly. What does campaigning against McPhail going to accomplish?

[DeuceBaseman]

There's no way that the Cubs are trading DeRosa just for these 3 prospects and keeping them. They are shedding the payroll to go get Peavy. Before all these moves the Cubs had 10 million to spend. They needed a RF and a SP. Milton Bradley was that $10 million player they could spend on. But they wanted Peavy as well, who will cost about $10 more million. So now they traded Marquis and DeRosa which saves them about $10 million. See how this all adds up?? Now for their infield they have Theriot, Fonteot, Miles, and Cedeno. Not all of them will be on the team. And they also have these 3 pitching prospects that they have no use for. Those 3 pitchers, along with Cedeno, and Vitters, Hart, and maybe Pie (Olson), will all go to SD for Peavy. Cubs win in every facet of their trades. They go from DeRosa and Marquis to Bradley and Peavy and it only costs them 10 million. While adding Miles and Vizcaino.

[Fairfax Bird]

I doubt Miles is going to be a 4 million dollar bench player, possible but not likely...

They gave Miles $4 million a year. We are applauding the hard work of the FO. Ppppplllllleeeeeeaaaasseeee.

[allstar1579]

I doubt Miles is going to be a 4 million dollar bench player, possible but not likely...

$4.9 for 2 years, so about $2.45 a year, that is possible for a bench guy, stupid, but possible. Fontenot will be the starter at 2B (barring a Roberts trade) and Theriot at SS.

[Roll Tide]

Thanks, Frobby.

There are few folks on this board who don't acknowledge that patience and deliberateness has certain costs. How great those costs are remain undetermined.

Patience is all that anyone has preached, that I can tell. And even if a poster determines that patience is impossible, why that poster would choose to post thread after thread harping on the same issue is beyond me. I just don't understand it.

I know I am responding to this late ...But I couldn't resist.... Havent you guys figured out the obviuos. If the front office made some substantial move to improve the club they would be rewarded by improved attendance.

Once a game is played with emtpy seats the revenue is lost and can never be recovered. The More empty seats the higher the lost revenue.

Money spent on a Sheets,Dunn, (still possible) or Tex,Burnett would've helped the team fill a good portion of those seats that almost certainly will be empty.

Hardly anyone here will run out & buy tickets because of the addition of Freel,Izturis, Hendrickson, or even Zaun if it happens.

[Fairfax Bird]

No kidding... these daily "held hostage" threads are getting silly. What does campaigning against McPhail going to accomplish?

Maybe Duquette can get his job back and then BBs source can actually be apart of the process.

[jcroemer]

There's no way that the Cubs are trading DeRosa just for these 3 prospects and keeping them. They are shedding the payroll to go get Peavy. Before all these moves the Cubs had 10 million to spend. They needed a RF and a SP. Milton Bradley was that $10 million player they could spend on. But they wanted Peavy as well, who will cost about $10 more million. So now they traded Marquis and DeRosa which saves them about $10 million. See how this all adds up?? Now for their infield they have Theriot, Fonteot, Miles, and Cedeno. Not all of them will be on the team. And they also have these 3 pitching prospects that they have no use for. Those 3 pitchers, along with Cedeno, and Vitters, Hart, and maybe Pie (Olson), will all go to SD for Peavy. Cubs win in every facet of their trades. They go from DeRosa and Marquis to Bradley and Peavy and it only costs them 10 million. While adding Miles and Vizcaino.

That would make sense, but a 7-for-1 deal?

[JTrea81]

They gave Miles $4 million a year. We are applauding the hard work of the FO. Ppppplllllleeeeeeaaaasseeee.

Well actually it is a 2 year 4.9 million contract so closer to 2.5 million a year...

[jcroemer]

Maybe Duquette can get his job back and then BBs source can actually be apart of the process.

That's the funniest thing I've heard all day.