vab Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 Looking over some of these FAs - Brandon Nimmo really looks like someone Elias could be interested in - a lefty bat, good speed, high OBP. This would also free up Mullins, who the Marlins reportedly covet, in a trade for Pablo Lopez. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcard Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 I don't see the O's going 5/110m for Nimmo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vab Posted November 28, 2022 Author Share Posted November 28, 2022 If that's what he can command, then no. Not sure if I see a guy with his resume getting that but we'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frobby Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 If we trade for Lopez, I’d like to extend him if at all possible. Is he worth something in the 5/$80 mm neighborhood, keeping in mind that he’s probably only getting $15-18 mm total for 2022/23 in arbitration? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RZNJ Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 Maybe the Marlins will just sign Nimmo! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrinkinWithFermi Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 I'd rather just keep Mullins and sign Bassitt. That way, we still end up with a CF and SP, but we will have spent $40-50 million less that can be invested elsewhere over the coming competitive years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vab Posted November 28, 2022 Author Share Posted November 28, 2022 11 minutes ago, DrinkinWithFermi said: I'd rather just keep Mullins and sign Bassitt. That way, we still end up with a CF and SP, but we will have spent $40-50 million less that can be invested elsewhere over the coming competitive years. That makes some sense but if you can get away without signing the SPs for an extended period I think that's a better bet. What would Bassitt require, 4-5 years? I'd rather give that length of deal to a position player and keep the SP on a shorter deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristotelian Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 Problem is you have multiple moving parts going on. This depends on the Marlins accepting our trade package, and Nimmo (and Nimmo's agent) agreeing to come to Baltimore. There is a risk you could do one and get stuck without the other, depending on which happens first. If we were pressured to sign Nimmo, you would have to be very confident there is a market for Mullins and we would get fair value in return, otherwise we end up with two CF's and no pitcher. Or we could end up with Lopez and no CF if Nimmo doesn't sign. I would not be opposed to this series of moves but we have to recognize it will be difficult to pull off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrinkinWithFermi Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 1 minute ago, vab said: That makes some sense but if you can get away without signing the SPs for an extended period I think that's a better bet. What would Bassitt require, 4-5 years? I'd rather give that length of deal to a position player and keep the SP on a shorter deal. I was going with the idea that Bassitt would require 3 years at $60-70 million total, which is roughly in line with predictions for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interloper Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 Quick reminder that Bassitt is a QO guy and will cost a pick. Not that I'm against signing him. That might be a better loss than whoever you have to trade to get Lopez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcard Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, interloper said: Quick reminder that Bassitt is a QO guy and will cost a pick. Not that I'm against signing him. That might be a better loss than whoever you have to trade to get Lopez. Yes, he was offered a QO. It would cost the O's their 3rd selection in the draft which is the Group B competitive balance selection after the 2nd round. So would Eovaldi. Edited November 28, 2022 by wildcard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
now Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, vab said: That makes some sense but if you can get away without signing the SPs for an extended period I think that's a better bet. What would Bassitt require, 4-5 years? I'd rather give that length of deal to a position player and keep the SP on a shorter deal. That philosophy makes a lot of sense. Hasn't anyone quantified by now the long-contract risk profile of SP versus position players? Seems a key factor to weigh, so I'd be surprised if Mike&Sid aren't all over it. (Though of course mileage does vary, player to player.) On the Mullins front, I see temporary options in house between Hays, McKenna, Vavra(?), Cowser, Haskin... until Fabian/Beavers/Trimble down the road. Maybe they'll see where Cowser is at midseason, then hit the trade market for Mullins if Cowser is ready for the Show. PS Or take a short-term flyer on Bellinger, who could also fit as a 1B option? Edited November 28, 2022 by now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristotelian Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 Just now, now said: On the Mullins front, I see temporary options in house between McKenna, Vavra(?), Cowser, Haskin... until Fabian/Beavers/Trimble down the road. Maybe they'll see where Cowser is at midseason, then hit the trade market for Mullins if Cowser is ready for the Show. Those are pretty bad options for CF. McKenna can't really hit. The others are not known as CF prospects. Any advantage we'd be getting from Lopez would come at cost of CF defense and/or offense if we don't sign Nimmo, and the odds are not good for us being the highest bidder on Nimmo and him wanting to play in Baltimore. Much simpler solution is to roll with Mullins in center, while using more expendable players (Hays, Urias) along with prospects to upgrade the pitching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tabletop Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 They have more than enough payroll space to just sign Nimmo, sign one of the 2nd tier starters, and keep Mullins. I don’t see why it has to be Mullins or Nimmo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owknows Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 22 minutes ago, tabletop said: They have more than enough payroll space to just sign Nimmo, sign one of the 2nd tier starters, and keep Mullins. I don’t see why it has to be Mullins or Nimmo. We should sign Judge while we're at it. And Verlander. Also, I want a pony. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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