Dylan Cease

[RZNJ]

8 minutes ago, Billy F-Face3 said:

1. I don't want Cease.

2. He would cost far more than he's worth in a trade. 

3. No

Cease is a 1 year wonder and his baseline is less than average. He's part of the reason the White Sox were so bad this season. Definitely not worth the acquisition.

 

8 minutes ago, Billy F-Face3 said:

1. I don't want Cease.

2. He would cost far more than he's worth in a trade. 

3. No

Cease is a 1 year wonder and his baseline is less than average. He's part of the reason the White Sox were so bad this season. Definitely not worth the acquisition.

For arguments sake, SportsGuy says Fangraphs WAR is better than baseball reference and Fangraphs says Cease was worth 4.4, 4.5, and 3.7 the last 3 years.  They have Bradish at 3.8 last year.

[HakunaSakata]

59 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

So you want the showy knock-off instead of the OG?

I want an Ipod, not a Zune. 

[dystopia]

26 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

 

For arguments sake, SportsGuy says Fangraphs WAR is better than baseball reference and Fangraphs says Cease was worth 4.4, 4.5, and 3.7 the last 3 years.  They have Bradish at 3.8 last year.

FG’s pitching WAR is absolute trash. This is a perfect example as to why. There are mountains of other examples. 

[HakunaSakata]

1 hour ago, Yossarian said:

I'd rather target a LHP for OPACY.  what would it take to land Snell?

A multiverse version of John Angelos that lavishly spends money?

[RZNJ]

4 minutes ago, dystopia said:

FG’s pitching WAR is absolute trash. This is a perfect example as to why. There are mountains of other examples. 

Okay, BRef has Cease at 3.0,6.0,2.4 the last 3 years.  They have Bradish at 4.9 last year.    

[dystopia]

2 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

Okay, BRef has Cease at 3.0,6.0,2.4 the last 3 years.  They have Bradish at 4.9 last year.    

Definitely more reasonable. rWAR isn’t perfect either but I’d take it over fWAR when it comes to pitching any day. 

[Can_of_corn]

1 hour ago, HakunaSakata said:

I want an Ipod, not a Zune. 

Both are E-waste now.

But nice to see you value style over substance. 

[Roll Tide]

11 hours ago, Sports Guy said:

Would be very intrigued by a Cowser, Westburg/Ortiz, Mountcastle, Kremer, Norby and Povich for Cease and Robert deal.

Did the trade on baseball trade values…..it would be a no go with Ortiz. With Westburg it still 129 vs 110 in favor of us. They call it a minor overpay by the White Sox.

[baltfan]

9 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

Both are E-waste now.

But nice to see you value style over substance. 

Shocking you would favor the contrarian option.  

[Can_of_corn]

8 minutes ago, baltfan said:

Shocking you would favor the contrarian option.  

I preferred a cheap model at the time.

But hating on the Zune had nothing to do with how it functioned. 

[HakunaSakata]

8 hours ago, Roll Tide said:

Did the trade on baseball trade values…..it would be a no go with Ortiz. With Westburg it still 129 vs 110 in favor of us. They call it a minor overpay by the White Sox.

Cease makes sense if they believe his 2022 season was an outlier, but why would the White Sox trade Robert (one of their few young cornerstones)?

[HakunaSakata]

9 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

Both are E-waste now.

But nice to see you value style over substance. 

My iPod still works. How's your Zune holding up?

[Can_of_corn]

4 minutes ago, HakunaSakata said:

My iPod still works. How's your Zune holding up?

Once again, don't own one,

Never owned one.

Listening to Madison by Sloppy Jane on my Pixel at the moment,

From talking to Zune users the device worked fine. 

 

[Sports Guy]

50 minutes ago, HakunaSakata said:

Cease makes sense if they believe his 2022 season was an outlier, but why would the White Sox trade Robert (one of their few young cornerstones)?

Because they are a train wreck with him, he has had injury issues and would be cashing in at high value.

Now, they definitely could elect to keep him if they don’t want to hit the reset button again but there is plenty of reason on their end to trade him.

[Frobby]

12 hours ago, RZNJ said:

 

For arguments sake, SportsGuy says Fangraphs WAR is better than baseball reference and Fangraphs says Cease was worth 4.4, 4.5, and 3.7 the last 3 years.  They have Bradish at 3.8 last year.

Just more evidence that Sports Guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about.