Jump to content

755


beaner

Recommended Posts

Kudos to the Padres fans, who for the most part cheered Bonds Home Run, for the second straight weekend, the San Diego fans have come through with pure class. Great moment. Some people were booing, probably some of the same ones who cheered wildly for Ken Caminiti, but that's ok. For the most part, the reaction was positive.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Replies 151
  • Created
  • Last Reply

I'm clapping. Bonds is the greatest baseball player I've ever seen. Maybe he did steroids, maybe not. But how do we know who did? Maybe Pujols, maybe A-Rod, maybe Clemens, maybe Jeter, maybe Cal, who knows. We don't know.

But here we are: Bonds has come out, swung the bat 755 times in which the ball went over the fence. That's all I care about. When he hits 756, he will be the All-Time Home Run King. No asterisk. No nothing. Bonds is the home run king.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I'm clapping. Bonds is the greatest baseball player I've ever seen. Maybe he did steroids, maybe not. But how do we know who did? Maybe Pujols, maybe A-Rod, maybe Clemens, maybe Jeter, maybe Cal, who knows. We don't know.

But here we are: Bonds has come out, swung the bat 755 times in which the ball went over the fence. That's all I care about. When he hits 756, he will be the All-Time Home Run King. No asterisk. No nothing. Bonds is the home run king.

Well said, Mr Wahoo. Of course he did steroids, and a few of the ones you mentioned may have too, there are certainly players we hangouters have all cheered for that have done steroids too. The fact remains that 755 Home Runs is an unbelievable accomplishment, that's the bottom line.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

As a pure baseball fan, its sickening to watch Barry Bonds hold one of baseball's most prized records. It's a shame soon we'll have not one, but two of the game's greatest scumbags holding honored records, when Bonds joins Pete Rose as a MLB record holder.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Lately , despite the alleged allegations of Bonds as being a cheater , the crowds have been giving a positive reception as he begins to approach 756. When he hit his 2nd of 2 home runs in that game in Chicago , he received a positive standing ovation , as he did when he hit 754 in San Francisco and 755 in San Diego. I am still hoping boos are rained upon him as he hits 756 , but given the recent reception towards him , it is unlikely the video of 756 that goes down in history will involve irate fans booing as he rounds the bases.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

As a pure baseball fan, its sickening to watch Barry Bonds hold one of baseball's most prized records. It's a shame soon we'll have not one, but two of the game's greatest scumbags holding honored records, when Bonds joins Pete Rose as a MLB record holder.

Couldn't disagree more. Bonds is an amazing player, whether he's a scumbag or not shouldn't matter. I don't need to be his friend, just watch him hit.

Pete Rose passed Ty Cobb, who is widely regarded as the biggest jerk to ever play the game. What Rose did as a manager has nothing to do with how many hits he had as a player.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

sorry guys...i can't cheer and I will NEVER EVER cheer...and guess what...if it were ever proven that Cal used...I would never cheer for him again either. What he did...and let's be honest, he did do it...cheated the game.

I would never want my kids to grow up and learn that a record like the all time home-run record was accomplished by cheating...CHEATING!!!! Does he have mad skill...of course he does...no one denies it. However, he is a despicable human being who deserves nothing less then to go down as a chump.

I loved Bud Selig standing up and not even clapping...he showed up yeh...but showed no emotion. Barry doesn't deserve it. Bonds and others like McGwire, Canseco, Giambi, Palmeiro, and others have cheated a game that I and millions of other love so much. Cheer for him...no way...I will sit and remember Hank Aaron as the true home run king

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Couldn't disagree more. Bonds is an amazing player, whether he's a scumbag or not shouldn't matter. I don't need to be his friend, just watch him hit.

Pete Rose passed Ty Cobb, who is widely regarded as the biggest jerk to ever play the game. What Rose did as a manager has nothing to do with how many hits he had as a player.

but he enhanced his body in order to achieve a record that this enhancement has direct correlation to doing. Not only is he a scumbag, which many others are...he made it EASIER to hit the HRs!!!! Rose didn't bet hits...he hit hits. This record has a million of these ********************

Link to comment
Share on other sites

sorry guys...i can't cheer and I will NEVER EVER cheer...and guess what...if it were ever proven that Cal used...I would never cheer for him again either. What he did...and let's be honest' date=' he did do it...cheated the game.

I would never want my kids to grow up and learn that a record like the all time home-run record was accomplished by cheating...CHEATING!!!! Does he have mad skill...of course he does...no one denies it. However, he is a despicable human being who deserves nothing less then to go down as a chump.

I loved Bud Selig standing up and not even clapping...he showed up yeh...but showed no emotion. Barry doesn't deserve it. Bonds and others like McGwire, Canseco, Giambi and others have cheated a game that I and millions of other love so much. Cheer for him...no way...I will sit and remember Hank Aaron as the true home run king[/quote']

Technically, we know as much about Bonds as we do about Brady, Tejada, Gibbons, and any other Oriole name that has ever been brought up with suspicion. Do I think Bonds used steroids, of course I do, but i also believe that all the names I mentioned above did as well, along with hundreds of other players including many of the pitchers who gave up Home Runs to all of these guys. Does that make it right, no, but it was an even playing field for the most part, and Bonds just happens to be the best player out of any of them.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I'm clapping. Bonds is the greatest baseball player I've ever seen. Maybe he did steroids, maybe not.

It seems like so many people when arguing about Bonds say "we don't know for sure that he used steroids, lets give him the benefit of the doubt." The fact is, there is no doubt, he testified to a grand jury about the "cream and the clear," a n admission of guilt.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/12/03/MNGGFA0UDU65.DTL

He used steroids. Period.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

As a pure baseball fan, its sickening to watch Barry Bonds hold one of baseball's most prized records. It's a shame soon we'll have not one, but two of the game's greatest scumbags holding honored records, when Bonds joins Pete Rose as a MLB record holder.

I am with you. It is a shame. Bonds is a miserable, pompous, A-hole.

I still can't put Bonds in the same class as Aaron. To me this record will be an empty accomplishment. Hopefully, the entire crowd just sits on their hands when he hits it.

Game of Shadows details Bonds relationship with BALCO and his steroid use (and many other athletes). There is no doubt about it- he cheated big-time.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I am with you. It is a shame. Bonds is a miserable, pompous, A-hole.

I still can't put Bonds in the same class as Aaron. To me this record will be an empty accomplishment. Hopefully, the entire crowd just sits on their hands when he hits it.

Game of Shadows details Bonds relationship with BALCO and his steroid use (and many other athletes). There is no doubt about it- he cheated big-time.

Too late, most of the crowd cheered for him, as they should have...Yea, he's a pompous a-hole, but who cares. We have to watch him play Baseball, nothing else.

I always go back to the Ray Lewis incident, he lied to police about a DOUBLE MURDER, and people around here were so quick to forgive and cheer him. What he did was so far beyond worse than steroids it isn't even worth talking about, yet we can't even acknowledge Bonds accomplishment because he's a "scumbag, jerk pompous...etc". Not that he isn't, but why is it such a big deal.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Technically, we know as much about Bonds as we do about Brady, Tejada, Gibbons, and any other Oriole name that has ever been brought up with suspicion. Do I think Bonds used steroids, of course I do, but i also believe that all the names I mentioned above did as well, along with hundreds of other players including many of the pitchers who gave up Home Runs to all of these guys. Does that make it right, no, but it was an even playing field for the most part, and Bonds just happens to be the best player out of any of them.

even playing field...

http://www.newsday.com/media/photo/2006-03/22327462.jpg ----pirates

http://graphics.jsonline.com/graphics/sports/brew/img/mar04/bonds327.jpg

giants

so what your saying is...the hundreds of players who used...made it an even playing field for the hundreds and hundreds of others who didn't. If ALL of the pitchers used...it might, but they didn't, probably not even a 1/4. Bonds would not be at 755 if it wasn't for steroids. PERIOD. THERE WOULD BE NO RECORD.

He would have 625 or so right now...not anywhere near the mark. You can't observe and cheer for something that steroids had direct correlation to making come true...you just can't

Link to comment
Share on other sites

even playing field...

http://www.newsday.com/media/photo/2006-03/22327462.jpg ----pirates

http://graphics.jsonline.com/graphics/sports/brew/img/mar04/bonds327.jpg

giants

so what your saying is...the hundreds of players who used...made it an even playing field for the hundreds and hundreds of others who didn't. If ALL of the pitchers used...it might' date=' but they didn't, probably not even a 1/4. Bonds would not be at 755 if it wasn't for steroids. PERIOD. THERE WOULD BE NO RECORD.

[b']He would have 625 or so right now...not anywhere near the mark.[/b] You can't observe and cheer for something that steroids had direct correlation to making come true...you just can't

I don't know if that's true, if he wasn't such a threat, than he may not have been walked so many times...It's about 850 more at bats that he's have if it weren't for all the walks.

Your other points are well taken, and I'm certainly not saying that steroids didn't play a part in the record, but the guy has hit all of these Home Runs, some credit must be given here.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Couldn't disagree more. Bonds is an amazing player, whether he's a scumbag or not shouldn't matter. I don't need to be his friend, just watch him hit.

Pete Rose passed Ty Cobb, who is widely regarded as the biggest jerk to ever play the game. What Rose did as a manager has nothing to do with how many hits he had as a player.

I could care less about his personality. When I say the game's greatest scumbags, I was referring to blatant CHEATING. If Bonds kicks puppies on his way to the stadium, hits 756 without steroids, fine. But even without testing positive, there is no doubt he was juiced. You just do not add that much muscle mass at that age. Not to mention the whole head size growth thing.

I compared him to Pete Rose, because he's equally a scumbag for gambling on baseball. Steroids and Gambling are the two worst things a baseball player can do, on the field.

Both of them are complete trash, IMO. Its sad to think about the truly great players Bonds has passed, who actually earned their numbers w/o cheating.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Posts

    • Had a couple of base hits up the middle last night, one of which was off a 98 MPH fastball, so maybe he's starting to get his timing down.  He's still not driving the ball too much yet, but that will come. I think he's close to a breakout game.
    • I know that you know this but probably don’t care. But the facts are 2019 was A LONG TIME AGO. And his initial injury was now 2 years ago. I’m not sure how relevant those 2019 numbers are to the ineffective pitcher that he is right now. We waited on him all season last year and that didn’t prove to be wise. If we get something from him that will probably be a great bonus. But I hope that there is now a plan A that doesn’t include waiting for a now off injury pitcher to turn back into the player that he was 5 years ago.
    • This thread is eerily similar to Cowser discussion last year… at some point, it may become needed  to reset and go back down .. Willie Mays and Mickey Mantle are famous examples  
    • You've been on quite the roll lately. The curmudgeony is starting to melt away! 🤣
    • I am guessing the extension only works when the player is rehabbing directly following recovery from surgery.   That was the case with Hernandez.  But in Means’ case, he pitched in four major league games, pretty effectively, after his 2023 rehab stint.  So I doubt this would count as a post-surgery rehab.  I guess we’ll find out.  
    • He would have had an RBI double last night if the ball didn't get "stuck" under the wall. Kjerstad would have easily scored. I didn't get to see the entire game, unfortunately.  I did get to see Kjerstad with some really superb swing decisions. He looks pretty locked in. It's a shame about the myocarditis, still blows my mind that he's 25. 
    • You had the same info we have now. You knew he missed the playoffs because of an injury.    You knew we had barely seen him since the TJ surgery.    And that was part of the point but you dismissed it.
  • Popular Contributors

  • Popular Now

×
×
  • Create New...