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I hate to say it but I think that’s a big risk but also a no-brainer.  Odds are high that McDermott is a reliever.   Elite reliever might be his ceiling but even that’s a stretch.      Scherzer

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Maybe but I would look to move other players first.  I doubt that’s the only trade that would work.

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25 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Maybe but I would look to move other players first.  I doubt that’s the only trade that would work.

I hear ya, but just an uncomplicated 1-1 swap. Trading pitching for pitching. That seems to be the industry standard currently. 

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3 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

I’m not making any Scherzer  trade until at least after the AS break unless we can get him for a few C level prospects. 
 

Need to see more of him and see that there are no signs of lingering health issues.

I’m not saying they’ll make a deal right now, but maybe they’re just as aggressive in trading early as they were last year. 

I doubt they let Scherzer go more than 5-6 IP in his 2-3 starts before the ASB. He has no value to them. Every inning he throws for them is unnecessarily risky and expensive. 

I don’t know too much about his injuries this year, but I’d imagine he’d be highly motivated to win a ring and get another huge contract. 

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I hate to say it but I think that’s a big risk but also a no-brainer.  Odds are high that McDermott is a reliever.   Elite reliever might be his ceiling but even that’s a stretch.   
 

Scherzer is old (39) and a bit of a health risk but he can help in the regular season and he gives you a chance in the playoffs.   McDermott, apparently, has had some back issues of his own.

Reliever for veteran rental starter who still has it?    Yes.

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Absolutely!!!

But would the Rangers do that? Could they beat that deal elsewhere?

One thing I would say is that the Rangers are almost assuredly “out of contention” now. Even in a mediocre AL West. And most of the buying teams are closer to luxury tax considerations and may not want to take on Scherzer’s salary for the remained of the season (though estimates are under 15 million - which should be a drop in the bucket for us considering current payroll).

However, I have injury concerns about Scherzer. And IMO he does not solve the rotation problems/holes for next season like other potential acquisitions could.

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@sportsfan8703 you have warmed me to the idea of Scherzer. However, given his age/injury risk and given that the move will be more of a salary dump that a cost of prospects, what do you think of adding another SP along with him to protect against the risk? 

I know that we have Kremer coming back so that might need be necessary? But the age/injury concerns with Scherzer worry me.

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@sportsfan8703 you have warmed me to the idea of Scherzer. However, given his age/injury risk and given that the move will be more of a salary dump that a cost of prospects, what do you think of adding another SP along with him to protect against the risk? 

I know that we have Kremer coming back so that might need be necessary? But the age/injury concerns with Scherzer worry me.

Scherzer is not a salary dump 

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You think the Rangers can get top 50-75 prospects for him? Top 100?

I don’t know but if they can’t, that doesn’t mean he’s a salary dump.  The team trading for him would only be on the hook for 5ishM.

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      Poll - Would you trade McDermott for Scherzer straight up?

      By sportsfan8703 · Posted

      The edit I would make is for it to be anonymous, and allow you to change your vote. Scherzer is scheduled to start on Th. If he has another 5 IP 2ER or less start then he probably prices himself out of McDermott.  Things to consider from Texas’ perspective, - They’re in the same boat as us going forward.  They need depth, but with their position group, they need pitchers that would have playoff start upside. - As defending champs with a ton of unfortunate injuries, they might stand pat if they get within 4-5 GB of the playoffs.  Heck, maybe they pull an Angels and buy.  I heard Jung is coming back soon.  
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      By interloper · Posted

      It's a good one for sure. I still haven't voted because I still can't decide.  It's tough!  I think I lean no because I have a feeling Scherzer can be had for less, or for multiple lesser guys. McDermott is a guy who could be crucial to the pitching staff late in the year a la Hall. 
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