Three Run Homer Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Santander's grand slam increased the O's win probability from 34.5 percent to 87.1 percent, according to MLB.com, a 52.6% increase. That has to be one of the most impactful plays in MLB this season, right? I wonder what the record is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Can_of_corn Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Three Run Homer said: Santander's grand slam increased the O's win probability from 34.5 percent to 87.1 percent, according to MLB.com, a 52.6% increase. That has to be one of the most impactful plays in MLB this season, right? I wonder what the record is. 0.923 WPA is the highest. Tony's HR was an inning early. The top 300 (at least) are all walk offs. Edited August 24 by Can_of_corn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports Guy Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 46 minutes ago, Three Run Homer said: Santander's grand slam increased the O's win probability from 34.5 percent to 87.1 percent, according to MLB.com, a 52.6% increase. That has to be one of the most impactful plays in MLB this season, right? I wonder what the record is. It may be the biggest hit of this season. Is this the game that turns these guys around? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oriole40 Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 We need to keep Santander and I strongly believed that before his heroics tonight, Grand Slam. I know many on the board do not give him his due for this team, but look at the HRs and RBIs the Yanks can throw at the opposition, and then without him look what the Orioles have left to throw at their opposition. We should hope that some of our minor league sluggers mature quicker than seems the case at this point in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtman55 Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 All hail Tony Taters. Huge win for the Orioles. Now we just have to find a way to win without relying on home runs exclusively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e16bball Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 I don’t know if it will make sense to beat all bidders for a 30-year-old who doesn’t give you much on defense coming off a 40+ HR season. But if we’re going to give a “bad” deal to anyone at this point, this would be the guy. I love everything about this dude. I think he’s the leader of the team. He has a connection with every single guy on the roster. And when we’ve needed a hero over the last couple seasons, more often than not, it’s #25 that steps up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsfan8703 Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 (edited) Gotta pay someone. We’ve been conditioned by previous ownership to “not overpay” even if that means losing. When do we deserve to “over pay” to win? Edited August 24 by sportsfan8703 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keygans Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 I’m gonna miss him. You just don’t pay $20m for him knowing some team will. Take the pick like with Burnes and move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagwar Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 I'd rather spend money on pitching this offseason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamiliel Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 4 hours ago, e16bball said: I don’t know if it will make sense to beat all bidders for a 30-year-old who doesn’t give you much on defense coming off a 40+ HR season. But if we’re going to give a “bad” deal to anyone at this point, this would be the guy. I love everything about this dude. I think he’s the leader of the team. He has a connection with every single guy on the roster. And when we’ve needed a hero over the last couple seasons, more often than not, it’s #25 that steps up. Nope, let him walk and take your pick. Unless, he gives a team friendly deal. Our money needs to be in pitching and you hope the hitters you drafted mature. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OsFanSinceThe80s Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 The risk with paying Santander is his new contract value being based on him having a career year power wise. Do we think Santander is more likely to repeat this year's performance or will he be more like his 2022-23 version? Odds are this is Santander's career year and while he'll be decent next season don't expect this level of production to be the norm going forward. The idea of signing Santander to a big contract reminds me of what happened with Trumbo after leading the league in home runs in 2016. While I think Santander is likely to play better players like him tend to hit the wall fast. Also Santander isn't a very good defensive player. He's not a butcher like Trumbo, but his range his limited and that will only decline with age. Maybe a three year deal, but I think you take the comp pick for him and invest that money in pitching and contract extensions for the younger Orioles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivedc Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Lifetime contract. Give Q a lifetime contract too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dzorange Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 11 hours ago, Sports Guy said: It may be the biggest hit of this season. Is this the game that turns these guys around? If they can just tread water for the next five games, there’s a chance for the O’s to go on a run between the schedule lightening up and the team hopefully getting healthier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dzorange Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 4 hours ago, sportsfan8703 said: Gotta pay someone. We’ve been conditioned by previous ownership to “not overpay” even if that means losing. When do we deserve to “over pay” to win? I can live with an overpay if it’s a short term deal. Anything over three years for Santander is a big risk. It’s not exactly apples to apples, as Santander is younger and he has a decent floor offensively, but look at the Jose Abreu deal for the Astros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waroriole Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 2 hours ago, OsFanSinceThe80s said: The risk with paying Santander is his new contract value being based on him having a career year power wise. Do we think Santander is more likely to repeat this year's performance or will he be more like his 2022-23 version? Odds are this is Santander's career year and while he'll be decent next season don't expect this level of production to be the norm going forward. The idea of signing Santander to a big contract reminds me of what happened with Trumbo after leading the league in home runs in 2016. While I think Santander is likely to play better players like him tend to hit the wall fast. Also Santander isn't a very good defensive player. He's not a butcher like Trumbo, but his range his limited and that will only decline with age. Maybe a three year deal, but I think you take the comp pick for him and invest that money in pitching and contract extensions for the younger Orioles. I generally agree with not paying Santander and investing in pitching and extensions. But, the specifics get in the way a little. Which FA SP do you sign? Burnes who’s wilted down the stretch, has a seriously declining K rate, and will be the most sought after SP on the market? The other big name SP, Fried? Bigger injury risk there and similar K rate, while older. The mid range SP like Kikuchi or Flaherty? There’s not good options on the market for FA SP. For extensions, if Gunnar will sign something reasonable then do it yesterday. Is there any other young guy you’d sign to an extension right now? Maybe Holliday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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