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Interestingly, he hasn't been flailing aimlessly at the down and away breaking ball.

However, he is chasing stuff up. Easier correction in my opinion.

This is definitely correct. He's been making a lot of strides this season, in my opinion, on not chasing the junk low and off the place outside. It seems that because of that the book on how to pitch to Jones has changed. Pitchers know that he's a fastball hitter and that when they throw him a fastball he jumps out of his shoes trying to hit it. They're getting him out by jamming him with fastballs off the plate inside or getting him to swing through or pop up fastballs up out of the zone.

This is a welcome change because the issue has less to do with pitch recognition and more to do with strike zone discipline. I think that's an easier skill to acquire. Plus, when pitchers make a mistake with fastball location to Jones up and in, there's a much smaller margin for error. Jones usually hammers those pitches when they get enough of the plate.

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First I'm not a big Jones fan. I was looking at the computer last night and he has 4 HRs and 5 RBIs. He hits either 4 or 5 th in the lineup. He basically must be doing terrible with RISP. I get that the that the whole team is struggling but Geez this guy is said to have arrived.

Thought?

I think your first sentence says it all.

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I dunno, I mean first of all, you don't know whether he's batting fourth or fifth. Secondly, he's batting over .300 and on track for 25-30 home runs. He's already got 3 steals. And you said it yourself, the whole team is struggling with RISP, so it doesn't really reflect on whether or not he's "arrived". It's just a reactionary post - Jones is doing fine. He isn't perfect, but he's starting with a bang so it's great to see.

Its not reactionary..... And yes on track for 25-30 homers and 35 or 40 RBis. He has been batting 4th But I wasnt sure if Wieters had batted 5th. I must confess that I not a unsufferable KNOW IT ALL!

He has 1 non solo homerun RBI in 11 Games!

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Its not reactionary..... And yes on track for 25-30 homers and 35 or 40 RBis. He has been batting 4th But I wasnt sure if Wieters had batted 5th. I must confess that I not a unsufferable KNOW IT ALL!

He has 1 non solo homerun RBI in 11 Games!

The defense rests.

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Its not reactionary..... And yes on track for 25-30 homers and 35 or 40 RBis. He has been batting 4th But I wasnt sure if Wieters had batted 5th. I must confess that I not a unsufferable KNOW IT ALL!

He has 1 non solo homerun RBI in 11 Games!

He is actually on track for 59 HRs and 74 RBI

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Its not reactionary..... And yes on track for 25-30 homers and 35 or 40 RBis. He has been batting 4th But I wasnt sure if Wieters had batted 5th. I must confess that I not a unsufferable KNOW IT ALL!

He has 1 non solo homerun RBI in 11 Games!

Its been 11 games. It means little to nothing. Do you think we'll be in first in September? Well we're in first now so the answer MUST be yes!

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This is correct ... I havent see him swinging at the down and away. He just isnt a patient hitter.

I would characterize his patience as about average. Although it leaves something to be desired in certain situations where he tries to crush the ball. Jones is strong enough he doesn't need to try and crush the ball. Once he is able to control this urge, I think his situational issues will subside.

This is the next step in his development. And his development has been nothing but positive since he arrived. Every year his numbers get better. Wether he makes the jump to elite status is up to him.

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Jones seems to be a completely different kind of hitter without RISP.....he looks relaxed, and is more patient. But he really needs to take a chill pill with RISP.....he appears to get hyper, and reverts back to swinging wildly at anything.

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Its not reactionary..... And yes on track for 25-30 homers and 35 or 40 RBis. He has been batting 4th But I wasnt sure if Wieters had batted 5th. I must confess that I not a unsufferable KNOW IT ALL!

He has 1 non solo homerun RBI in 11 Games!

you said it yourself, you are not a fan of Jones and therefore are looking for something to complain about.

The two guy that are right in front of him are Markakis and Hardy, both of whom are in a bad slump right now.

In the early goings he has a line of .313/.354/.622/.976

For God sakes h is 1/9 with RSIP - NINE ABs! You are worrying about NINE ABs.

You said it yourself, you don't like Jones and your own personal feelings are the only justification for bringing this up. He is fine, shouldn't you be more worried about Nick and JJ cooling off hardcore after their first five games? After all, that is the primary reason Adam hasn't had a lot of opportunities with runners on.

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Its not reactionary..... And yes on track for 25-30 homers and 35 or 40 RBis. He has been batting 4th But I wasnt sure if Wieters had batted 5th. I must confess that I not a unsufferable KNOW IT ALL!

He has 1 non solo homerun RBI in 11 Games!

You're not an unsufferable know it all, but you're an insufferable know-nothing ... Jones has had a hot start, the team isn't struggling - they're near the top of the league in OPS right now -- 4 home runs with 5 RBIs is an early season ANOMALY and has nothing to do with Jones being clutch or unclutch. Amazing people hammer on him for his AB against the Yankees then two days later he ties the game up with a homer with two outs in the bottom of the ninth and he still can't get any slack.

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Sample size renders this whole discussion almost completely pointless. And the fact that "clutch ability" can't, you know, be observed in reality and that RBI is a useless stat takes us the last few steps there. :P

I can't help thinking that clutch ability is somehow intertwined with the Higgs boson.

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