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Moose Milligan Hangout Grand Counsel

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I'll post here so that I'm not called out. Looks like crap. No question.

I'm guessing Moose has a Google News Alert for whenever Tillman screws up so he can rush back here to bag on him.

I'll give him credit, he's looked good in some of his starts this year. But I don't give a crap about what he's done in the minors or an uptick in velocity if he can't -as Hank correctly stated- can't do the #1 thing a successful starter should be able to do.

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I'll give him credit, he's looked good in some of his starts this year. But I don't give a crap about what he's done in the minors or an uptick in velocity if he can't -as Hank correctly stated- can't do the #1 thing a successful starter should be able to do.

He looks terrible. Even in his MiLB starts that I wrote up on here, I noted that his command was better, not as good as I wanted it. This is also the reason why I would have traded him for Headley. That said, he's had three good starts and two terrible ones. Be nice if he could hang on for 5 tonight.

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I'll post here so that I'm not called out. Looks like crap. No question.

I'm guessing Moose has a Google News Alert for whenever Tillman screws up so he can rush back here to bag on him.

Looks really bad, but he always does in the first inning. His velocity is generally down in the 1st too. He needs a bit of help/luck and he got none...squeezed by the ump multiple times, highly questionable choice to throw another changeup to Granderson on 3-2, and then that stupid chopper w/ the runner going. Totally squeezed against Martin leading to the 3-0 count.

Apologistic, I know, but didn't deserve 5 runs against.

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Looks really bad, but he always does in the first inning. His velocity is generally down in the 1st too. He needs a bit of help/luck and he got none...squeezed by the ump multiple times, highly questionable choice to throw another changeup to Granderson on 3-2, and then that stupid chopper w/ the runner going. Totally squeezed against Martin leading to the 3-0 count.

Apologistic, I know, but didn't deserve 5 runs against.

You're going to get sliced and diced for this. He's got to fight through that stuff. And whatever he's doing for warm-ups, he's doing it wrong. Because he was 89-90 for multiple batters.

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Looks really bad, but he always does in the first inning. His velocity is generally down in the 1st too. He needs a bit of help/luck and he got none...squeezed by the ump multiple times, highly questionable choice to throw another changeup to Granderson on 3-2, and then that stupid chopper w/ the runner going. Totally squeezed against Martin leading to the 3-0 count.

Apologistic, I know, but didn't deserve 5 runs against.

Tillman could kick your dog, I'm sure you'd find an excuse for him ;)

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Looks really bad, but he always does in the first inning. His velocity is generally down in the 1st too. He needs a bit of help/luck and he got none...squeezed by the ump multiple times, highly questionable choice to throw another changeup to Granderson on 3-2, and then that stupid chopper w/ the runner going. Totally squeezed against Martin leading to the 3-0 count.

Apologistic, I know, but didn't deserve 5 runs against.

I agree with everything you wrote, but Tillman is due for some bad luck. He had a 1.66 ERA coming into this start. He's pitched decent in his 4 starts, but a 1.66 ERA. He hasn't been nearly that good.

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