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Matt Hobgood - is there hope? (No, there is not. Indy League bound.)

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skanar Major Leaguer Cup of Coffee

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Matzek is a great kid, sorry to hear he is having control issues. Hopefully, the staff will be able to solve any issues by refining mechanics.

Doesn't seem likely, or at least, they haven't made any progress since he was drafted. 6.2 BB/9 his first season; ballooned to 8.9 BB/9 the next year. Managed to get it down to a (still-unacceptable) 6.0 BB/9 in 2012, which is where he is so far this season (6.1). He is young-ish for his level (22 in AA this season), and gets plenty of Ks (9.4 MiL K/9), but no pitcher can get away with two walks every three innings - for reference, Jake Arrieta's MLB BB/9 is 4.0.

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He is 22 and fifth year since he was drafted and has only made it to Delmarva. Move him up to Frederick and see if he can still get people out. At this pace he will be 30 by the time he gets to triple A

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He is 22 and fifth year since he was drafted and has only made it to Delmarva. Move him up to Frederick and see if he can still get people out. At this pace he will be 30 by the time he gets to triple A

This is poor post. If he is 24 and still not salvageable I will agree. He says he is healthy for the first time since we drafted him. I am willing to see if he can be an asset.

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Can anyone give me a little context here? Does Hobgood have a chance to fine himself in Baltimore at any point in his career? Going to Faidley's doesn't count.

I'm glad he seems to be healthy, and while I know this was a sign ability pick at the time, he was still a very high selection with at least some decent upside. Is any of that still there?

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Can anyone give me a little context here? Does Hobgood have a chance to fine himself in Baltimore at any point in his career? Going to Faidley's doesn't count.

I'm glad he seems to be healthy, and while I know this was a sign ability pick at the time, he was still a very high selection with at least some decent upside. Is any of that still there?

Yes, there's some major upside here. He's still only 22 and looks great in person and on the stat sheet. The average age for pitchers in the SALL is 21.7.

He can make a career for himself if he stays healthy. He would be beating tremendous odds to return from such a serious shoulder injury though.

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He would be beating tremendous odds to return from such a serious shoulder injury though.

A "serious" shoulder injury would be a torn labrum or rotator cuff. His was only a loose shoulder capsule. Nothing close to either of those, and probably the least serious shoulder injury a pitcher could have.

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I heard the interview with RP the other day and he said Matt got it up to 95/96. Maybe the shoulder was the real issue and we'll see the prospect we thought we would.

I'd lay money down that they move in back to a starter either late this summer and NLT then year.

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A "serious" shoulder injury would be a torn labrum or rotator cuff. His was only a loose shoulder capsule. Nothing close to either of those, and probably the least serious shoulder injury a pitcher could have.

Ask Dan Klein about that. I STRONGLY disagree.

Also, Hobgood was misdiagnosed for a full season.

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Klein had a labrum issue, right?

Per SteveM

Right-hander Dan Klein, the Orioles' third-round draft pick in 2010 out of UCLA, will undergo another shoulder procedure and he will likely miss all of the 2012 season.

The rotator interval closure procedure will be performed by shoulder specialist Dr. Craig Morgan this Monday, April 16, in Wilmington, Del. It is expected to tighten the area around the shoulder capsule.

It is a very similar procedure that Dr. Morgan performed on Matt Hobgood on April 2. Hobgood is expected to miss all this season but said Dr. Morgan felt it was very reasonable for him to return by next March.

This will be the third procedure on that right shoulder over the last few years for Klein. He had surgery last Aug. 16 to repair a tear in his right labrum and loosen his shoulder capsule. He had arthroscopic surgery and took a redshirt year at UCLA in 2009.
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As happens fairly frequently, I am confused by your post. What do you STRONGLY disagree with?

I strongly disagree that the shoulder surgery performed on Habgood was nothing close to a rotator cuff. It sure kept him out for long enough.

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As happens fairly frequently, I am confused by your post. What do you STRONGLY disagree with?

I do not mean to confuse you. Dan Klein had the same surgery and is unable to play baseball. I know, Dan had other issues. But the last surgery evidently really did the trick.

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Pretty sure Klein's surgery involved a torn labrum that had already been surgically repaired, along with loosening the capsule whereas Matt only had his capsule tightened up. A lot more at stake when the dreaded labrum is involved.

I do think you are correct with this. And I do hate labrum surgeries. So I agree with this. I did mean to say that any shoulder surgery which shuts a first round pick pitcher down for a year is serious to me.

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I strongly disagree that the shoulder surgery performed on Habgood was nothing close to a rotator cuff. It sure kept him out for long enough.

I'm not sure where the confusion came from personally. I lump any shoulder surgery as serious, especially one where you seek out a specialist in Delaware and will keep you on the mend for 12-18 months.

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I'm not sure where the confusion came from personally. I lump any shoulder surgery as serious, especially one where you seek out a specialist in Delaware and will keep you on the mend for 12-18 months.

I think that is what RZNJ had hoped I would have said. ;)

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