Carrie Muskat says Cubs and Orioles are still talking.

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PS OH, we are not trying to say Bedard isn't good, or even VERY good (I reserve great for multiple years of his '07 numbers), simply that the Cubs idea makes little sense for the Cubs and O's (who wouldn't get as good of a return)

And Rich Hill has similar positive upside as Bedard did after last year, he was basically the Cubs ace of '07, had he not had such terrible run support he likely would've been recognized throughout the MLB as well (unfortunately a lot of ESPN-like stations just love W-L)

[amateurfan]

Here's a question, his numbers were very good against the AL East, how were they against the AL Central?

Good, except against Minnesota.

[Sports Guy]

Due to a blister problem

Yes, Zito was overrated, but he didn't struggle in the AL

He didn't have a blister issue in 2006.

He just didn't pitch well.

[amateurfan]

And one of his two starts against Minn was opening day - he wasn't ready and it showed.

[Sports Guy]

Tell Steve Trachsel that;)

No, Hill's HR rate is not related to his curveball, he simply does not hang his curveball very often, it's related to his nearly brand new changeup

Then what do you attribute his relatively high HR in the minors too?

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/H/Rich-Hill.shtml

[Sports Guy]

PS OH, we are not trying to say Bedard isn't good, or even VERY good (I reserve great for multiple years of his '07 numbers), simply that the Cubs idea makes little sense for the Cubs and O's (who wouldn't get as good of a return)

And Rich Hill has similar positive upside as Bedard did after last year, he was basically the Cubs ace of '07, had he not had such terrible run support he likely would've been recognized throughout the MLB as well (unfortunately a lot of ESPN-like stations just love W-L)

PS Cubs fans....You don't have enough to acquire him anyway.

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Then what do you attribute his relatively high HR in the minors too?

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/playe...ich-Hill.shtml

In more innings (199.1>195) in 2006, Hill only gave up 19 HR's total

This year he gave up 27

What's the difference?...the new changeup

[JoeyR5]

PS Cubs fans....You don't have enough to acquire him anyway.

Yes we do, it's just a matter of if we want to give up what it will take.

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PS Cubs fans....You don't have enough to acquire him anyway.

I've already said that

[JoeyR5]

You wouldnt take a

Pie, Marmol, Gallagher, Cedeno deal for Bedard?

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You wouldnt take a

Pie, Marmol, Gallagher, Cedeno deal for Bedard?

IMO they have better offers

[Big Mac]

You wouldnt take a

Pie, Marmol, Gallagher, Cedeno deal for Bedard?

If that was the best offer on the table come the end of the Month, I'd consider it. However, the Mariners can easily beat that offer.

I just don't think I want a Utility Player, A #3 or 4 starter, reliever (even one as dominant as Marmol) and A CF, who to me, isn't a slam dunk.

[Goop]

Thanks for the info.

[Sports Guy]

You wouldnt take a

Pie, Marmol, Gallagher, Cedeno deal for Bedard?

No, I wouldn't.

[Roll Tide]

You wouldnt take a

Pie, Marmol, Gallagher, Cedeno deal for Bedard?

I wouldn't take it either.

Gallagher is the only guy on the list i'd want in the Roberts deal. (Forget Bedard)

Pie is terribly overrated.... Look back at the we need to keep Colvin as a back up on the event he's a bust comment! He strikes out way to much! His Sb/CS ratio is a lousy. Honestly I'd resign C Patterson

Marmol is a relief pitcher (No thanks)

Cedeno is well... I mean has already Busted... Good defense but cant hit ML pitching.