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Orioles trade Davies for Parra. Your verdict?

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Do you like the Davies for Parra trade?  

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  1. 1. Do you like the Davies for Parra trade?

    • I approve. A small price to pay to fix the O's OF hole with a quality veteran.
      95
    • I disapprove. The O's gave up up a pitching prospect for a rental who won't move the needle.
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I hate when people say "Well, you are only so many games from a wildcard, so you have to go for it, right?". To me the answer there is and should be "it depends". The O's are just 2 games back of that

DrungoHazewood Hangout Grand Counsel

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This is a Duquette kind of trade. A moderately talented, moderately-projected prospect for a pretty good short-term guy. Not a fan of rentals. There is risk here. Parra is not going to guarantee a playoff spot in any way. But in the end it's probably a trade of a couple wins for a guy who's not going to be an impact talent in the majors. Probably. Interested if they want to try to resign Parra, but that really has no impact on the trade.

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DrungoHazewood Hangout Grand Counsel

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Parra OPS/month career:

Apr: .708

May: .762

Jun: .757

Jul: .766

Aug: .689

Sep : .730

His present .880 is not supported by his career numbers, and Aug/Sep have historically been his worst months.

I'll guess we get .700 -.725 for our 60 game rental

Monthly splits generally have no predictive value. It is true that he's not likely to be a .880 guy from now on.

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Reboulet'sStache Veteran All-Star

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If we could lock up Parra in the offseason' date=' I think this is a great trade. What would it take? 3/33, 4/40? Overpay, underpay?[/quote']

Could we not have signed him the off-season without the trade? Whether we extend him or not, in the end, we traded for 2 months of him. They trade should be judge based purely on that.

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Could we not have signed him the off-season without the trade? Whether we extend him or not' date=' in the end, we traded for 2 months of him. They trade should be judge based purely on that.[/quote']Disagree. If they traded for him with the intention of signing him, then whether they sign him should absolutely factor into the trade.
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I like the move only if Parra can get the Orioles into the playoffs. I still approve of the deal last year to get Andrew Miller. Sure both are rentals but both are big pieces to a team that is in a WIN NOW mode and minor league pitchers are a dime a dozen. I'll take the proven ML player every time.

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If we could lock up Parra in the offseason' date=' I think this is a great trade. What would it take? 3/33, 4/40? Overpay, underpay?[/quote']

The trade and any potential extension have little or nothing to do with one another. All this gets the O's is an exclusive negotiating period. Parra is a 2-win player, and you have to assume decline. So let's say his next three years are (optimistically) something like 2.5, 2, 1.5 wins for a total of six wins. At $7M per win that gives you 3/42. That's probably around what he's looking for. Major risks are that he's overachieving on BABIP this year, and his defensive metrics have fallen off a cliff recently.

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Completely disagree. You've traded for two months of him, plus a negotiating window. I wouldn't pay $50 and a goat for the window.

This doesn't make much sense to me. If they sign him before he hits free agency, it's a direct result of the trade. If would have been impossible without the trade.

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This is a Duquette kind of trade. A moderately talented, moderately-projected prospect for a pretty good short-term guy. Not a fan of rentals. There is risk here. Parra is not going to guarantee a playoff spot in any way. But in the end it's probably a trade of a couple wins for a guy who's not going to be an impact talent in the majors. Probably. Interested if they want to try to resign Parra, but that really has no impact on the trade.

This is how I see it as well. I just don't see the O's having a realistic shot at the post-season, so that makes the move a negative for me.

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This doesn't make much sense to me. If they sign him before he hits free agency, it's a direct result of the trade. If would have been impossible without the trade.

Why would he agree to a deal he couldn't have gotten in free agency? If they do extend it will be at free agent market costs. So, there is no difference. The trade is for 2 months.

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Disagree. If they traded for him with the intention of signing him, then whether they sign him should absolutely factor into the trade.

You could sign him in the off-season without trading for him. Trading Davies had nothing to do with signing him. The trade was only so you can get him for 2 months.

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