Toronto names Mark Shapiro president

[MDtransplant757]

He sat alone and ignored in the hotel lobby during the winter meetings during his "retirement".

I don't know why he stayed away for so many years, I guess it was to get back at Boston for banishing him before 2004, when that was mostly his team that won.

[paulcoates]

After the Orioles performance this year I think he would be out of the running regardless. Let's face it, GM's who take their team from first to a likely last place finish in their division aren't exactly hot commodities.

[MDtransplant757]

After the Orioles performance this year I think he would be out of the running regardless. Let's face it, GM's who take their team from first to a likely last place finish in their division aren't exactly hot commodities.

Dan gambled that everyone would stay at their 2014 levels, and they didn't.

[Crabcakes]

Are we really happy keeping DD?

We need a GM who can build an organization from the ground up, lead a re-build.

Is that anywhere on DD's resume?

I don't think so.

Short answer re keeping DD: yes.....unfortunately

Long answer: Hell yes....he's destroyed the team & the farm system....let's see if he can keep it up

Context: Rebuilding ain't happening.....neither is being relevant for the next 8-10 years

[24fps]

I don't know why he stayed away for so many years, I guess it was to get back at Boston for banishing him before 2004, when that was mostly his team that won.

I don't think it was his choice to stay away, quite the opposite. I looked for the articles I read at the time and only found this:

Duquette was out of MLB between being let go by the Bosox in 2002 and finally being hired by the Orioles, ahead of Jays' current assistant GM Tony LaCava. Fact is, he had been available for anyone to hire, including the Jays - attending every winter meetings in that time as a job seeker, usually sitting alone in hallways and lobbies as disinterested execs passed by. Now, after three years with the O’s and two appearances in the playoffs, after 96 wins in 2015 his star is on the rise.

http://www.thestar.com/sports/bluejays/2015/01/22/why-blue-jays-should-pass-on-dan-duquette-griffin.html

[MDtransplant757]

I don't think it was his choice to stay away, quite the opposite. I looked for the articles I read at the time and only found this:

http://www.thestar.com/sports/bluejays/2015/01/22/why-blue-jays-should-pass-on-dan-duquette-griffin.html

Cause everyone thought that the Sawx were Theo Espien's team at that time, and around 2007, a good chunk of it was, but most of those players were still over because of Duquette.

[olehippi]

Dragged kicking and screaming out of retirement? Do you have any evidence for this nonsense?

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OK, it wasn't kicking and screaming, but I remembered reading about him being out of baseball for 9-10 years, and turning down other offers. That's what stuck in my head. Here's a good article describing what happened to Dan Duquette.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2014/10/13/after-long-hiatus-duquette-finds-fit-baltimore/xUGmqDHO6mCFugDLKESVYM/story.html

And Crazy silver03 - you hit me with a negative rep for asking a question? Don't you think that was kind of a kneeJERK reaction?

[MDtransplant757]

OK, it wasn't kicking and screaming, but I remembered reading about him being out of baseball for 9-10 years, and turning down other offers. That's what stuck in my head. Here's a good article describing what happened to Dan Duquette.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2014/10/13/after-long-hiatus-duquette-finds-fit-baltimore/xUGmqDHO6mCFugDLKESVYM/story.html

And Crazy silver03 - you hit me with a negative rep for asking a question? Don't you think that was kind of a kneeJERK reaction?

Yeah, he was epically screwed, no wonder he stayed out. Inherited a meh situation in Baltimore and ran with it

[bobmc]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sources: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Indians?src=hash">#Indians</a> will not receive compensation for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BlueJays?src=hash">#BlueJays</a> for hiring of Mark Shapiro as team president.</p>— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) <a href="

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[DrungoHazewood]

After the Orioles performance this year I think he would be out of the running regardless. Let's face it, GM's who take their team from first to a likely last place finish in their division aren't exactly hot commodities.

Good, let other teams make their hires based on the noise superimposed on the signal.

[oriole]

I think the Orioles overplayed their hand this winter. They should have just taken a prospect and hired Brady.

That's not a knock on Duquette. I think he has done a very good job so far for the most part. Our farm system is not looking too hot these days and a high-end prospect would make me feel a whole lot better about all the injuries and ineffectiveness.

[TonySoprano]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sources: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Indians?src=hash">#Indians</a> will not receive compensation for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BlueJays?src=hash">#BlueJays</a> for hiring of Mark Shapiro as team president.</p>— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) <a href="

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This is a lateral move, so it's curious Cleveland let him go so easily. It's hard to believe he had been in Cleveland for 24 years. His father Ron was the agent for Cal Ripken, Jim Palmer, and Eddie Murray.

[Crazysilver03]

This is a lateral move, so it's curious Cleveland let him go so easily. It's hard to believe he had been in Cleveland for 24 years. His father Ron was the agent for Cal Ripken, Jim Palmer, and Eddie Murray.

The owner of the Indians has put a minority stake up for sale. Maybe that played into it.

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[MCO'sFan]

Short answer re keeping DD: yes.....unfortunately

Long answer: Hell yes....he's destroyed the team & the farm system....let's see if he can keep it up

Context: Rebuilding ain't happening.....neither is being relevant for the next 8-10 years

Wow...just wow. Hyperbole?

[DrungoHazewood]

Short answer re keeping DD: yes.....unfortunately

Long answer: Hell yes....he's destroyed the team & the farm system....let's see if he can keep it up

Context: Rebuilding ain't happening.....neither is being relevant for the next 8-10 years

Playoffs two out of four years in the context of a team that hadn't been anything like relevant in almost 15 years. I shudder to imagine your assessment if they'd just continued on the path they had been pre-Duquette. How has a team that's won, what, 55% of their games the last four years on the heels of 14 years of losing been "destroyed"?