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Buck's decision to pull McFarland with 2 outs in the 9th last night

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MurphDogg Hangout Grand Counsel

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The problem is that it is only a 4-run game, so it could become a save situation very quickly. So you may have to warm up O'Day in order to protect Britton, and if O'Day is warmed up you might as well use him?

This presupposes that he absolutely wasn't going to use Britton. And yet Britton was warming up. It was a mistake.

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Not certain if this applies to Britton, but many sinkerballers perform better when their arms are a little "tired". He may prefer to warm up some nights even if it's highly unlikely he'd pitch. No idea if this was the case last night (or ever), but getting him up "unnecessarily" might be free of downside or even of some benefit.

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So what did Buck say when the media asked him about it?

Great question. I didn't watch the post-game press conference, but I would be interested to know the answer.

I like Buck a lot but for him to pretend that he is not beholden to the save rule is one thing that bothers me about him.

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Great question. I didn't watch the post-game press conference, but I would be interested to know the answer.

I like Buck a lot but for him to pretend that he is not beholden to the save rule is one thing that bothers me about him.

I would be surprised if any of the media questioned Buck about it.

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Was Britton really "warmed up"? Sometimes they just stand there ready to get loose if necessary. If he was fully warmed up, I agree, that would be the most bizarre aspect of this.

He was warming up. You don't throw having pitched the last two games if you don't think there is a chance you are going in. It isn't like he just happened to be out there stretching.

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I completely hated the move, but Buck's gonna do Buck things. I'll gladly take this as the bad with all the good he brings. This is really my only quibble with his bullpen management. He never wants to see a win slip away in the 9th inning, so he always uses relievers far better than what is required for the leverage of the last inning. The long reliever is almost never allowed to finish off games for a W no matter how big the lead is. Stuff like O'Day pitching with a 4 run lead, or Brach with a 5 run lead, along those lines.

Managing a group of humans, I see where he's coming from. You do not want to lose those games with less than your best on the mound. That's a blow to team morale the same way it is to fans. It's one of those places where numbers don't line up with what may actually be the best practice. But Buck certainly never takes any chances.

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I completely hated the move, but Buck's gonna do Buck things. I'll gladly take this as the bad with all the good he brings. This is really my only quibble with his bullpen management. He never wants to see a win slip away in the 9th inning, so he always uses relievers far better than what is required for the leverage of the last inning. The long reliever is almost never allowed to finish off games for a W no matter how big the lead is. Stuff like O'Day pitching with a 4 run lead, or Brach with a 5 run lead, along those lines.

Managing a group of humans, I see where he's coming from. You do not want to lose those games with less than your best on the mound. That's a blow to team morale the same way it is to fans. It's one of those places where numbers don't line up with what may actually be the best practice. But Buck certainly never takes any chances.

Yeah. I long time ago stopped trying to guess what Billy Martin taught to Buck Showalter to pull out at the 11th hour.

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