2017 MLB Draft Order/ Comp Pick Talk

[sportsfan8703]

Figured we needed one of these to track where our draft pick is.  Hopefully it keeps going higher as other teams sign Q.O. offer guys and we don't.  Also the competitive balance lottery is slated for 1/25/17.  

Introduced when the current Collective Bargaining Agreement began in December 2011, the Competitive Balance Lottery gives teams that have either one of the 10 smallest markets or 10 smallest revenue pools one of six additional choices after each of the first and second rounds. Additionally, any other clubs that receive revenue-sharing funds are eligible for the supplemental second-round selections.

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/85923640/competitive-balance-lottery-pays-out-12-draft-picks/

Current draft order for 2017

1. Twins	59	103	.364
2. Reds	68	94	.420
3. Padres	68	94	.420
4. Rays	68	94	.420
5. Braves	68	93	.422
6. Athletics	69	93	.426
7. Diamondbacks	69	93	.426
8. Phillies	71	91	.438
9. Brewers	73	89	.451
10. Angels	74	88	.457
11. Rockies	75	87	.463
12. White Sox	78	84	.481
13. Pirates	78	83	.484
14. Marlins	79	82	.491
15. Royals	81	81	.500
16. Astros	84	78	.519
17. Yankees	84	78	.519
18. Mariners	86	76	.531
19. Cardinals	86	76	.531
20. Tigers	86	75	.534
21. Giants	87	75	.537
22. Mets	87	75	.537
23. Orioles	89	73	.549
24. Blue Jays	89	73	.549
25. Dodgers	91	71	.562
26. Red Sox	93	69	.574
27. Indians	94	67	.584
28. Nationals	95	67	.586
29. Rangers	95	67	.586
30. Cubs	103	58	.640

http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/2017-draft-order/

Best case scenario under the current CBA rules would be for us to creep into the top 20 of the 1st rd and to win a comp pick A, and pick directly after the first rd.  So something like picks #18 and #25.  

Worst case scenario is that we sign a QO offer player and miss out in the comp pick lottery altogether.  Then we'd have 0 first rd picks.  

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Figured we needed one of these to track where our draft pick is.  Hopefully it keeps going higher as other teams sign Q.O. offer guys and we don't.  Also the competitive balance lottery is slated for 1/25/17.  

Introduced when the current Collective Bargaining Agreement began in December 2011, the Competitive Balance Lottery gives teams that have either one of the 10 smallest markets or 10 smallest revenue pools one of six additional choices after each of the first and second rounds. Additionally, any other clubs that receive revenue-sharing funds are eligible for the supplemental second-round selections.

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/85923640/competitive-balance-lottery-pays-out-12-draft-picks/

Current draft order for 2017

1. Twins	59	103	.364
2. Reds	68	94	.420
3. Padres	68	94	.420
4. Rays	68	94	.420
5. Braves	68	93	.422
6. Athletics	69	93	.426
7. Diamondbacks	69	93	.426
8. Phillies	71	91	.438
9. Brewers	73	89	.451
10. Angels	74	88	.457
11. Rockies	75	87	.463
12. White Sox	78	84	.481
13. Pirates	78	83	.484
14. Marlins	79	82	.491
15. Royals	81	81	.500
16. Astros	84	78	.519
17. Yankees	84	78	.519
18. Mariners	86	76	.531
19. Cardinals	86	76	.531
20. Tigers	86	75	.534
21. Giants	87	75	.537
22. Mets	87	75	.537
23. Orioles	89	73	.549
24. Blue Jays	89	73	.549
25. Dodgers	91	71	.562
26. Red Sox	93	69	.574
27. Indians	94	67	.584
28. Nationals	95	67	.586
29. Rangers	95	67	.586
30. Cubs	103	58	.640

http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/2017-draft-order/

Best case scenario under the current CBA rules would be for us to creep into the top 20 of the 1st rd and to win a comp pick A, and pick directly after the first rd.  So something like picks #18 and #25.  

Worst case scenario is that we sign a QO offer player and miss out in the comp pick lottery altogether.  Then we'd have 0 first rd picks.  

Don't forget Trumbo got tagged with a QO.

[backwardsk]

Let's say that all 8 guys with QOs go to a different team.  Does that mean that the Mets (Cespedes) pick after the Cubs and the Orioles (Trumbo) pick after the Mets?

[fearthenoodle]

22 hours ago, backwardsk said:

Let's say that all 8 guys with QOs go to a different team.  Does that mean that the Mets (Cespedes) pick after the Cubs and the Orioles (Trumbo) pick after the Mets?

Yes, the QO picks would be in reverse order of standings, so the Mets' pick for Cespedes would be the only one slotted ahead of the Orioles' pick.

[backwardsk]

Looks like we'll pick after the Cubs (31 currently) now that Cespedes has returned to the Mets.

[fearthenoodle]

With Fowler and Desmond signed with new teams, our first round pick is now #21, and the first round (before compensation picks) is now only 28 picks.

[Tony-OH]

Good tracker here so you don't make the same mistake I made with Fowler. lol

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017-mlb-free-agent-tracker/sort_column-position__sort_direction-1

 

[backwardsk]

Jansen back to the Dodgers doesn't help us.  Neither does Turner going back there if he does.

[fearthenoodle]

With Turner and Jansen back to LAD, the only QO guys left are Trumbo, EE and Bautista. That means our first pick will fall anywhere from 18-21 (most likely 20 or 21), and the 2nd pick if Trumbo signs elsewhere could be anywhere from 26-29. .

[sportsfan8703]

From the new CBA regarding the 2017 Competitive Balance Pick

• Competitive Balance Selections will be continue to be awarded to Clubs in bottom-10 markets or bottom-10 in local revenue based on a combination of winning percentage and local revenue.  The lottery format was eliminated in favor of a system in which the eligible Clubs will receive selections after the first round or after the second round in alternating years.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/maurybrown/2016/11/30/breaking-down-mlbs-new-2017-21-collective-bargaining-agreement/2/#4e86977c3d1f

Are we in the bottom 10 markets still?  If so we could pick

1st rd pick18-21 

Potential comp pick for Trumbo 26-29

Competitive Balance PIck: 30-35

I still cannot find when they are awarding the picks. But the most important thing is if we're still in the bottom 10 market size and eligible for the comp pick? 

 

[fearthenoodle]

Round A
31. Tampa Bay Rays
32. Cincinnati Reds
33. Oakland Athletics
34. Milwaukee Brewers
35. Minnesota Twins
36. Miami Marlins

Round B
67. Arizona Diamondbacks
68. San Diego Padres
69. Colorado Rockies
70. Cleveland Indians
71. Kansas City Royals
72. Pittsburgh Pirates
73. Baltimore Orioles
74. St. Louis Cardinals

 

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/211045600/competitive-balance-picks-set-for-mlb-draft/?topicid=151437456

[fearthenoodle]

Also, under the terms of the new CBA, those groups simply switch every year over the course of the 5-year CBA. So next year there will be 8 Round A picks and 6 Round B picks. The bottom line for the Orioles, they will have 3 additional 2nd round picks and 2 additional first round picks while this current CBA is in place.

[sportsfan8703]

So if Trumbo leaves we'll have 4 picks in the top 70.  That's a nice way to restock the farm.  

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, sportsfan8703 said:

So if Trumbo leaves we'll have 4 picks in the top 70.  That's a nice way to restock the farm.  

After what happened last year (Gallardo, Davis, Wieters, Matusz) I'd rather not count draft picks until draft day.

[fearthenoodle]

7 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

So if Trumbo leaves we'll have 4 picks in the top 70.  That's a nice way to restock the farm.  

If Trumbo leaves AND we don't sign EE or Bautista AND we don't trade that competitive balance pick, then yes.