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11 minutes ago, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

Difficulty: The 2019 Red Sox and Yankees will be way better than their 1989 counterparts.  

Yeah, I can’t disagree.   Another reason to rebuild now is that the Yankees and Red Sox are peaking and will be tough to supplant the next couple of years no matter what we do.   

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4 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Yeah, I can’t disagree.   Another reason to rebuild now is that the Yankees and Red Sox are peaking and will be tough to supplant the next couple of years no matter what we do.   

Plus the unbalanced schedule does no favors. Bundy might be my favorite Oriole but I would move him for a wow trade offer.

The Orioles goal should be to be a playoff team in 2022/2023.

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14 minutes ago, OrioleDog said:

It's funny how perspective changes growing up.  My first thought here was - oooh, Keegan Akin v. Jeff Ballard - would that be a good over/under for Akin's career?  Then I go to B-Ref and see Ballard was below replacement for his career, which even understanding he was a flash in the pan, was not what I expected.

I think Ballard's K rate in 89 was something terrible like 3 or 4.  Milacki wasn't better.

 

EDIT:  Yikes, 2.6 for Ballard. 4.2 for Milacki in 1989.

 

 

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1 minute ago, LocoChris said:

I think the discussion should be us vs. '03 Tigers. We're approaching that level of suckitude fast especially after Machado is presumably traded.

The 03 Tigers were 38-118 with 6 games to go.  All they had to do was go 3-3 and it would break the all-time loss record of 120. Instead they inexplicably finished 5-1 to go 43-119.  Such a disappointment!  Of course, they followed that up in 3 years with an ALCS sweep of Oakland and a trip to the World Series.  So I would gladly sign up to be the 03 Tigers if we could follow that path.  Hell, even winning one game in the ALCS would be nice given that we have not done that since October of 1997. 

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1 hour ago, JR Oriole said:

The 03 Tigers were 38-118 with 6 games to go.  All they had to do was go 3-3 and it would break the all-time loss record of 120. Instead they inexplicably finished 5-1 to go 43-119.  Such a disappointment!  Of course, they followed that up in 3 years with an ALCS sweep of Oakland and a trip to the World Series.  So I would gladly sign up to be the 03 Tigers if we could follow that path.  Hell, even winning one game in the ALCS would be nice given that we have not done that since October of 1997. 

They beat us to Ivan Rodriguez.  Javy Lopez was not the same thing.  The Tejada Orioles would have been a few ticks better with a little marginal extra for quality on that one.

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4 minutes ago, birdwatcher55 said:

It shouldn't take us four years to be a playoff team again.

The Astros were terrible for 3 seasons (11-13) before they made the playoffs in 2015 (5 years after they had a mediocre year) and then won 100 games in 2017.

After Theo took over the Cubs in October 2011 they were kinda bad for 3 years before winning 97 games in 2015.

The Phillies have been kinda bad for 3 years and now they seem to be coming out of it a bit although they are not yet a playoff team.

Seems to me that 3-4 years is a middle of the road expectation for a team to be totally rebuilt.  Sure it could happen faster but I'm not really sure what pieces you see that are good foundations for the future..........I guess Bundy is one.

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2 minutes ago, Aglets said:

The Astros were terrible for 3 seasons (11-13) before they made the playoffs in 2015 (5 years after they had a mediocre year) and then won 100 games in 2017.

After Theo took over the Cubs in October 2011 they were kinda bad for 3 years before winning 97 games in 2015.

The Phillies have been kinda bad for 3 years and now they seem to be coming out of it a bit although they are not yet a playoff team.

Seems to me that 3-4 years is a middle of the road expectation for a team to be totally rebuilt.  Sure it could happen faster but I'm not really sure what pieces you see that are good foundations for the future..........I guess Bundy is one.

And none of the teams you listed had to deal with a Yankee and a Red Sox teams both operating on all cylinders.

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8 hours ago, Moose Milligan said:

I think we should give this team a night off, bring back the members of the '88 team and have them take the field for a game or two.  The results couldn't be worse and I'd love to see Cal at short, Billy at second, Eddie at first and Lynn in the outfield.  I know Lynn wasn't an all-star while he was here but from what I can tell he was decently productive.  Terry Kennedy behind the plate, Jeff Stone in left.  Who'd be the starter, it'd be Boddicker, right?

I don't know about you guys, but I'd be glued to the TV.  Best part is that our opponents could take it easy because they'd be playing against a bunch of 50 and 60 year old men.  So Eddie might be able to turn around a 80 mph meatball.  

The defense couldn't be much worse, I don't think.  

Anyway, that's what I'd like to do.

Boddicker would be teh starter only if the game was played before July 31.

Wade Rowden has to be in the game.   He got 30 plate appearances for us and put up a -0.6 WAR.   That takes some  effort.

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