New appreciation for Bordick

[weams]

7 minutes ago, 25 Nuggets said:

 

And this is very bad for Schoop.  Jonathan is losing millions of dollars in money this year with his poor performance.

Multi millions. 

[Tony-OH]

Let's just say this, Manny is not a Buck guy from what I've been told. Schoop seems to be on the Manny train.

[Going Underground]

11 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

Let's just say this, Manny is not a Buck guy from what I've been told. Schoop seems to be on the Manny train.

Thorne said yesterday after Buck finished his pre game press conference that he made sure the reporters heard him say that Buck specifically mentioned that Schoop had an option.Gary thought he was sending a message to Schoop since it was not off the record or anything. Bordick then said very interesting story. I think things will come out about this season in a year or two that will be very interesting.

[Flacco Machado]

18 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

Let's just say this, Manny is not a Buck guy from what I've been told. Schoop seems to be on the Manny train.

Who's on the next train out of Baltimore, though? Buck or Jonathan?

We know Manny is gone.

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

Chronicling the rise and fall of the Buck/Duquette Orioles would make for a good book.  

[atomic]

7 hours ago, Flacco Machado said:

Schoop looks like someone who allowed stardom to give him a big head, too fast. He had an unbelievable year last year, and his star was rising as the best 2B in the game. 

Then, the "bad advice" from his agent before fanfest. Then, the slow start and the oblique injury.

He needs a refocused off season. Which includes, a new fitness and strength program. He looks like he's starting to enjoy the perks of MLB clubhouse food.

I don't see that innocent, fun-loving guy anymore. The Orioles season will do that to a guy. But, still.

Anyway, that's just my personal observation, playing couch pyschiatrist.

Schoop best second baseman in the game??? He wasn't even in the top 10 before this season.  Altuve is definitely the best.  Schoop had his career last year.   Didn't expect him to repeat anything close to that 

[Can_of_corn]

Just now, atomic said:

Schoop best second baseman in the game??? He wasn't even in the top 10 before this season.  Altuve is definitely the best.  Schoop had his career last year.   Didn't expect him to repeat anything close to that 

I'll bite, give me #2-10.

 

https://www.mlb.com/news/jose-altuve-leads-top-second-basemen-into-2018/c-264749954

[atomic]

2 hours ago, weams said:

Multi millions. 

Think about how angry the people who bought 10 percent of his future earnings must feel.   

[gtman55]

There aren't many teams that are 35+ games under before the All Star break that keep their manager. Honestly, what does that say about this team/organization? If we go 60 games under at some point does Buck stay? Does he have some sort of immunity?

[atomic]

1 hour ago, Tony-OH said:

Let's just say this, Manny is not a Buck guy from what I've been told. Schoop seems to be on the Manny train.

I don't think Schoop has any trade value at this point.   The only question becomes does the team offer arbitration on him.   It would be great if arbitration system said you hit .196 you get 800k contract. 

[Flacco Machado]

18 minutes ago, atomic said:

Schoop best second baseman in the game??? He wasn't even in the top 10 before this season.  Altuve is definitely the best.  Schoop had his career last year.   Didn't expect him to repeat anything close to that 

I think if he had repeated his year last year, he'd be right there with Altuve.

But, this year has totally squashed that.

[TonySoprano]

Schoop, like Tillman, many here wanted locked up long-term. Tillman needs to consider his post-baseball options.  Schoop, I still hold out hope he can rebound, but it won't be this year.

[ThomasTomasz]

7 hours ago, Flacco Machado said:

Schoop looks like someone who allowed stardom to give him a big head, too fast. He had an unbelievable year last year, and his star was rising as the best 2B in the game. 

Then, the "bad advice" from his agent before fanfest. Then, the slow start and the oblique injury.

He needs a refocused off season. Which includes, a new fitness and strength program. He looks like he's starting to enjoy the perks of MLB clubhouse food.

I don't see that innocent, fun-loving guy anymore. The Orioles season will do that to a guy. But, still.

Anyway, that's just my personal observation, playing couch pyschiatrist.

Also, I think Adam Jones at this point is a detriment for School.  On Tuesday, I was sitting with a couple friends in the club level, and one of them pointed out that, when Jones and Schoop were warming up between the lineup announcements and taking the field, Jones was wearing a catcher's mitt.  Instead of doing a lot of longer-tosses that I see from most players on the away side and from Machado, Jones had Schoop throwing him curve balls and half the time, Jones was crouched as a catcher.  Not very impressed from that.  

[Flacco Machado]

18 minutes ago, ThomasTomasz said:

Also, I think Adam Jones at this point is a detriment for School.  On Tuesday, I was sitting with a couple friends in the club level, and one of them pointed out that, when Jones and Schoop were warming up between the lineup announcements and taking the field, Jones was wearing a catcher's mitt.  Instead of doing a lot of longer-tosses that I see from most players on the away side and from Machado, Jones had Schoop throwing him curve balls and half the time, Jones was crouched as a catcher.  Not very impressed from that.  

Yes, me neither. But, those three seem to have their inner circle. They are buds and they've been doing it for years. It looks great and funny, if you're winning, but not when you're losing like we are. 

[Flacco Machado]

20 minutes ago, TonySoprano said:

Schoop, like Tillman, many here wanted locked up long-term. Tillman needs to consider his post-baseball options.  Schoop, I still hold out hope he can rebound, but it won't be this year.

It's always a double edged sword, isn't it? Buy out those arbitration years, ala, Trout, before the player becomes a mega star.

I was in that group, for Schoop. But, something changed this past off season with him. Not in shape, as was brought up by Going Underground and myself, I think is one. And then not being a Buck guy, as Tony eluded to, could be another. Although, that shouldn't deter him from performing.

My question is, will Schoop rebound under a new manager? Someone, that maybe strokes his ego, more than Buck? Has knowing Manny is gone, affected his mood that much? 

I, just see a "me" guy with Schoop these days. He knows he's stuck in Baltimore, at least one more year, and all his buddies are leaving.