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For folks that are old enough, you are used to this kind of front office failure from the O's.

Whenever an O's squad is competitive, or they have a core group that can compete for the playoffs, I know they have about 3 years to win.  The last few years' window was a little longer (2012-2016), but you can ALWAYS count on ownership to NOT do what is necessary to win it all.  

I'm 47, so this is nothing new to me.  When I'm in my 60's I'll probably have another chance to see an Orioles championship (or at least go to the playoffs), since it's about every 15-20 years that they are competitive.  Or maybe this ownership hopefully decides to sell and someone with a winning attitude and actual "know-how" can build something here. Then it might be a little sooner.

Good Luck Manny.  I hope you finally get a chance to win a few World Series.   And in the next few years, I'll wish Adam Jones and Schoop good luck when they finally go to another organization who actually wants to win.

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1 minute ago, Moose Milligan said:

 

Daaaaaaamn, well I know who the next GM should be ........  Look no further than vikkt !!! 

 

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I was going to apply for the job, but the fact that I was against the Bedard trade 10 years ago is still a black mark on my resume.

 

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I don’t know why people are getting on the OP. Doesn’t everyone, to a certain degree, feel the same way. 

Probably the two best players we’ve had over the past 5 years are gone, but guys like Davis and Trumbo remains. 

It’s a good thing this isn’t NY. They’d run this management outta town.

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16 minutes ago, ORIOLE33 said:

 

I don’t know why people are getting on the OP. Doesn’t everyone, to a certain degree, feel the same way. 

Probably the two best players we’ve had over the past 5 years are gone, but guys like Davis and Trumbo remains. 

It’s a good thing this isn’t NY. They’d run this management outta town.

 

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If this were New York, the payroll of the team would have been in excess of $200 Million since 2004.

 

If this were New York, the wasteful Chris Davis contract would not be looming over the franchise's head like a dark cloud, threatening to hamstring it for the next 4 to 5 years.

 

If this were New York, there would be no "risk/reward" factor in terms of paying their players to stay and/or acquiring new and expensive free agents. 

 

For mid-market and small-market teams, if they splurge on a couple of highly expensive free agents that don't work out (like the Orioles did with Chris Davis), those teams will likely be moderately to severely hamstrung financially as a result of those signings for several years. The Orioles, in light of Chris Davis' most recent contract extension and its influence in how the Orioles dealt with Manny Machado (and his soon-to-be mega-contract(s) for whichever team that he signs with), could be starting down the barrel of that type of situation over the next few years. For the Yankees, it doesn't matter if they spend a lot of money on free agents that either bust and/or don't live up to the expectations that they had of them when they gave them all of that money (Carl Pavano, A. J. Burnett, Randy Johnson, Alex Rodriguez, Mark Teixeira, etc.) Or for that matter, Derek Jeter in the last few years of his career. Jeter wasn't a free agent signing, but he was a player that was making boatloads of money at that time ($16 Million a year over the final 5 years of his career between 2010 and 2014), and he was nowhere near that type of money player in his last 2 years with the team. But for the Yankees and their short-term and long-term budgets, no matter ....... they can keep spending, with little or no repercussions. There is the luxury tax situation for teams that spend excessively, but I'm talking about repercussions that seriously/adversely affect their thinking and their general financial situation in any meaningful way. Sure, the Yankees would like to avoid the luxury tax when they can, but if they don't, it's not like it then will significantly change their overall situation at-large. They almost certainly would not be remotely considering the possibility of letting a player like Manny Machado leave via free agency (if he were on their team) with only a draft pick coming back their way. Their payroll has dropped some over the last 2-3 seasons, but that has been due largely to big contracts coming off the the books, not necessarily a conscious effort by the Yankees to considerably tighten their pocket strings.

 

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3 minutes ago, OFFNY said:

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If this were New York, the payroll of the team would have been in excess of $200 Million since 2004.

 

If this were New York, the wasteful Chris Davis contract would not be looming over the franchise's head like a dark cloud, threatening to hamstring it for the next 4 to 5 years.

 

If this were New York, there would be no "risk/reward" factor in terms of paying their players to stay and/or acquiring new and expensive free agents. 

 

For mid-market and small-market teams, if they splurge on a couple of highly expensive free agents that don't work out (like the Orioles did with Chris Davis), those teams will likely be moderately to severely hamstrung financially as a result of those signings for several years. The Orioles, in light of Chris Davis' most recent contract extension and the situation with Manny Machado and his soon-to-be mega-contract(s), could be starting down the barrel of that type of situation over the next few years. For the Yankees, it doesn't matter if they spend a lot of money on free agents that either bust and/or don't live up to the expectations that they had of them when they gave them all of that money (Carl Pavano, A. J. Burnett, Randy Johnson, Alex Rodriguez, Mark Teixeira, etc.) Or for that matter, Derek Jeter in the last few years of his career. Jeter wasn't a free agent signing, but he was a player that was making boatloads of money at that time ($16 Million a year over the final 5 years of his career between 2010 and 2014), and he was nowhere near that type of money player in his last 2 years with the team. But for the Yankees and their short-term and long-term budgets, no matter ....... they can keep spending, with little or no repercussions. There is the luxury tax situation for teams that spend excessively, but I'm talking about repercussions that seriously/adversely affect their thinking and their general financial situation in any meaningful way. Sure, the Yankees would like to avoid the luxury tax when they can, but if they don't, it's not like it then will significantly change their overall situation at-large. They almost certainly would not be remotely considering the possibility of letting a player like Manny Machado leave via free agency (if he were on their team) with only a draft pick coming back their way. Their payroll has dropped some over the last 2-3 seasons, but that has been due largely to big contracts coming off the the books, not necessarily a conscious effort by the Yankees to considerably tighten their pocket strings.

 

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Meh, the Mets play in New York and they are pretty laughable.

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