Can Means become the Orioles’ version of Kuechel?

[Barnaby Graves]

Lol what a great thread.  Obando saw it way before most.

Hope the kid keeps it up.

[OFFNY]

15 hours ago, scOtt said:

 

Do I dare mention ROY ??? I have no idea who else is out there ........

 

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[Philip]

8 hours ago, DrungoHazewood said:

Means' K rate is 7.5, league is 8.8.
His walk rate is 2.4, league is 3.3.
His HR rate is 1.0, league is 1.4.
His FIP is 3.96, league is 4.48.
His BABIP is .253, league is .297.

He's a little better than league walks and homers, a little worse in Ks, and way better in BABIP.  BABIP isn't a part of FIP. 

If his BABIP is so much under the league average(I’m surprised it’s not much worse, given the frequent idiotic infield defense) isn’t there a danger that much of his success is luck?

[Can_of_corn]

7 minutes ago, Philip said:

If his BABIP is so much under the league average(I’m surprised it’s not much worse, given the frequent idiotic infield defense) isn’t there a danger that much of his success is luck?

Much is overstating things a bit but yea, something to watch.

[OFFNY]

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The 6 Earned Runs that the D-Rays scored was a season-high for Means.

Means also doubled the home run total that he has ceded at OPACY so far this season (from 3 to 6.) 

This was the 2nd consecutive outing in which Means did not walk any batters.

 

 

18 OUTS: ) 7 Groundouts, 4 Strikeouts, 3 Foulouts, 2 Flyouts, 2 Lineouts

 

JOHN ALAN MEANS )))))) (vs. D-RAYS, 7/13) )))))) [GAME TWO] 

IP:ll6

H:llll 8 )l (3 Home Runs, 3 Doubles, 2 Singles)   

R:lllll 6

BB:ll0 

SO:ll4

Pitches: )l 98) (64 )Strikes, )34 )Balls)

2019 ERA: ))2.94  ))  88.67 IP  (29 ER) 

2019 WHIP: ))1.094  ))  88.67 IP  (97 H/BB)

2019 OPPONENTS BATTING AVG: )).227 ) (75 for 331) 

 

PITCHES BY INNING

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13 ll(91 lStrikes, l4 lllBalls)

15 ll(12 llStrikes, l3 lllBalls)

14 ll(91 llStrikes, ll5 lllBalls)

20 ll(12 llStrikes, ll8 lllBalls)

13 ll(81 llStrikes, ll5 lllBalls)

23 ll(14 llStrikes, ll9 lllBalls)

 

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[OFFNY]

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Nice bounce-back game for Means, after previously sustaining his worst outing of the season (6 Earned Runs in 6 Innings Pitched against D-Rays.)

 

 

18 OUTS: ) 7 Flyouts, 5 Groundouts, 2 Foulouts, 2 Lineouts, 1 Strikeout, 1 Popout

 

JOHN ALAN MEANS )))))) (vs. RED SOX, 7/19)

IP:ll6

H:llll 4 )l (1 Home Run, 3 Singles)   

R:lllll 2

BB:ll2 

SO:ll1

Pitches: )l 102) (66 )Strikes, )36 )Balls)

2019 ERA: ))2.95  ))  94.67 IP  (31 ER) 

2019 WHIP: ))1.088  ))  94.67 IP  (103 H/BB)

2019 OPPONENTS BATTING AVG: )).224 ) (79 for 353) 

 

PITCHES BY INNING

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21 ll(14 lStrikes, l7 lllBalls)

21 ll(14 lStrikes, l7 lllBalls)

10 ll(61 llStrikes, l4 lllBalls)

17 ll(11 llStrikes, ll6 lllBalls)

19 ll(12 llStrikes, ll7 lllBalls)

14 ll(91 llStrikes, ll5 lllBalls)

 

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[OFFNY]

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This was Means' 2nd bad outing in his last 3 starts.

 

 

10 OUTS: )4 Strikeouts, 3 Flyouts, 2 Lineouts, 1 Popout

 

JOHN ALAN MEANS )))))) (vs. DIAMONDBACKS, 7/24)

IP:ll3.33

H:llll 6 )l (1 Home Run, 5 Singles)   

R:lllll 3

BB:ll3 

SO:ll4

Pitches: )l 95) (54 )Strikes, )41 )Balls)

2019 ERA: ))3.12  ))  98.00 IP  (34 ER) 

2019 WHIP: ))1.143  ))  98.00 IP  (112 H/BB)

2019 OPPONENTS BATTING AVG: )).230 ) (85 for 369) 

 

PITCHES BY INNING

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17 ll(10 lStrikes, lll71 lllBalls)

18 ll(11 lStrikes, lll71 lllBalls)

27 ll(15 llStrikes, ll12 llllBalls)

33 ll(18 llStrikes, ll15 llllBalls) ) *

 

* )) Means recorded 1 out before departing in the 4th inning.

 

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[ScGO's]

It got away from him in the 4th for sure, but that ump was squeezing him all game

[Bubble Buddy]

11 hours ago, ScGO's said:

It got away from him in the 4th for sure, but that ump was squeezing him all game

Ain't that the truth. I thought there were at least 5 or so borderline pitches of which he got none. And I was surprised that Palmer/Thorne didn't really comment. 

[Frobby]

4 minutes ago, Bubble Buddy said:

Ain't that the truth. I thought there were at least 5 or so borderline pitches of which he got none. And I was surprised that Palmer/Thorne didn't really comment. 

I see a grand total of one pitch that was really a strike but was called a ball.

[Bubble Buddy]

3 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I see a grand total of one pitch that was really a strike but was called a ball.

Still wanted a few of those on the outside corner. Maybe it was the way it was framed, but they were looking good on the TV. 

[Il BuonO]

3 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I see a grand total of one pitch that was really a strike but was called a ball.

You have pitch selection? Seemed to me he went away from the CH in a lot of counts when he normally would have used it. I did notice the HR allowed was on one left up, so maybe he didn’t have it working.

If he’s not throwing the CH effectively he’s in trouble. His other pitches are below average.

[Moose Milligan]

First full ML season, I am expecting some regression here heading into August.  And I agree with @Il BuonO, the changeup needs to be on.

He did rebound nicely from the previous bad start with a great start against the Sox.  Looking forward to seeing how he rebounds from this one.

For me though, it's all about how he's pitching this time, next season.  Has to prove that he's more than a one year wonder.  

[Camden_yardbird]

3 minutes ago, Il BuonO said:

You have pitch selection? Seemed to me he went away from the CH in a lot of counts when he normally would have used it. I did notice the HR allowed was on one left up, so maybe he didn’t have it working.

If he’s not throwing the CH effectively he’s in trouble. His other pitches are below average.

59% FB, 5% SL, 10% CV, 25% CH

Season averages are: 52/13/4/29%

So basically he swapped his curve and change usage and went more fastball than change under normal usage. 

This made sense in the context of the game.  According to pitch values his change was getting hit hard (and has been of late in 3 of his past 4).  And the curve was his better breaking pitch yesterday, essentially acting as a neutral value pitch to a slider that was not terrible but not as good hiven its limited usage.

Interestingly of those 3 games where he has gotten hit hard on the change recently, one was against TB who was seeing him for the third time and one was against Boston who he had previously owned with the change but was putching against them for the 4th time.  So he is getting over exposed a little.

Minor rant:  Balance the freaking schedule.

[25 Nuggets]

I'm not confident what Means is doing is sustainable.  If he finishes the season well I wonder what returns he could get in a winter trade.