Means ROY?

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

3 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

It's a shin contusion, I don't expect him to be out all that long.

True but sometimes injuries lead to slumps or linger. I think it's more likely Means gets a tired arm by mid August if he keeps pitching 6 or 7 innings every start. 

[Can_of_corn]

2 minutes ago, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

True but sometimes injuries lead to slumps or linger. I think it's more likely Means gets a tired arm by mid August if he keeps pitching 6 or 7 innings every start. 

He pitched 157.1 last year.  How many more are you expecting him to throw this year?

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

22 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

He pitched 157.1 last year.  How many more are you expecting him to throw this year?

I didn't know Means pitched that many innings last year. He should be good. 

[Can_of_corn]

2 minutes ago, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

I didn't know Means pitched that many innings last year. He should be good. 

He's 26, he isn't some kid out there.

[El_Duderino]

36 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

He's 26, he isn't some kid out there.

Not sure if serious.

[DrungoHazewood]

17 hours ago, Frobby said:

This seems like kind of a baseless statement to me.    Here are the last 10 rookies of the year in each league:

NL - Coghlan*, Posey*, Kimbrel*, Harper, Fernandez, deGrom, Bryant, Seager, Bellinger, Acuna

AL - Bailey, Feliz*, Hellickson, Trout, Myers*, Abreu, Correa*, Fulmer, Judge, Ohtani*.

* Winner did not lead his league’s rookies in WAR.

While it’s true that the player with the highest WAR won 13 times out of 20, that’s still plenty of times when the voters went a different direction.    In virtually every case where the voters chose the WAR leader, the choice would have been very obvious even if WAR didn’t exist.    

What's often lost in the WAR debate is that the people who dislike and criticise WAR usually agree with its outcomes.

[Number5]

2 hours ago, DrungoHazewood said:

What's often lost in the WAR debate is that the people who dislike and criticise WAR usually agree with its outcomes.

Well, after all, throughout history, history has been written by those that win the WAR.  

[Philip]

5 hours ago, Number5 said:

Well, after all, throughout history, history has been written by those that win the WAR.  

I’d upvote this if I could.