Poll: what do you think of the Astros’ punishment?

[SteveA]

52 minutes ago, yeoledugger said:

What would Judge Landis do (WWJLD)?

Make sure no black players are allowed in the game?  {Oops, Corn beat me to it).

[SteveA]

38 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Get rid of all the Black, Asian and Hispanic players?

Sorry, you beat me to it.   I need to read the complete thread before I post.

[SteveA]

Sentiment across MLB is that the penalty was too light, per ESPN:

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/28477741/why-anger-boiling-scenes-houston-astros-sign-stealing-punishments

[BohKnowsBmore]

3 minutes ago, waroriole said:

Not even close. Of course you’d take that because we’re nowhere near winning one now. 

It's not even really a tradeoff for him... Firing Elias would be on the positives side of the ledger for him, potentially ranked higher than the WS win

[foxfield]

I think to answer the original question, its about right.  I say that as it appears to be about as strong as possible without being challenged.  Could not punish the players without challenge.  But I think this is still a moving incident and a big one.  I also do not think it stops here.  Verducci has a piece as does Kenny stating that the evidence has pointed at least 8 more teams.  We know the Redsox are one of those.  The Redsox have been punished for this before.  If hammer is light on anyone else, especially if Boston or NYY are involved will raise serious concern.

 

My guess, St. Louis, Boston, NY Yankees, Mets, Toronto, Cubs?  I don't know...speculation.

 

[atomic]

12 minutes ago, SteveA said:

Sentiment across MLB is that the penalty was too light, per ESPN:

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/28477741/why-anger-boiling-scenes-houston-astros-sign-stealing-punishments

"The impression," one person familiar with the call told ESPN, "was that the penalty for complaining would be more than Houston got."

[Can_of_corn]

8 minutes ago, SteveA said:

Sentiment across MLB is that the penalty was too light, per ESPN:

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/28477741/why-anger-boiling-scenes-houston-astros-sign-stealing-punishments

Wow, the other owners think the penalty was too light?

They are hardly biased right?

[bobmc]

29 minutes ago, SteveA said:

Sentiment across MLB is that the penalty was too light, per ESPN:

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/28477741/why-anger-boiling-scenes-houston-astros-sign-stealing-punishments

Whoa - be careful what you complain about!  LoMo implicates a few other teams like the Yanks and LAD.

 

[Barnaby Graves]

I think it was a pathetic penalty and if there was any justice, their entire year should've been somehow voided, including the players' statistics, and the World Series victory.  Wanted to see bans on execs, coaches, and players handed out like candy, and didn't get it.  It was a coordinated and complex attack on the integrity of the game.  Same goes for any other teams doing this.

[forphase1]

2 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

It is a lot easier for the league to punish a team than the players.

Sure it is... and that's perhaps part of the problem. 

[atomic]

40 minutes ago, bobmc said:

Whoa - be careful what you complain about!  LoMo implicates a few other teams like the Yanks and LAD.

 

Logan Morrison never played for any of those teams.  Unless he wants to implicate a team he played on I think he should just keep quiet. 

[Cavspider]

If they are so bothered by stealing signs...  Why don't they just make it impossible to steal signs.  Not like we don't have the tech.  Just put a gadget on the catchers wrist with a flap that has buttons on it, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, whatever.  Let him call pitches by lifting the flap and pushing a button.  Button sends a signal to pitcher with an ear piece with the designated pitch.  Pitcher shakes off, catcher pushes another button.  Rinse repeat.  Or an apple watch on catcher to send signal to pitcher's watch... whatever...  The players know how apple watches work so maybe that's good enough...

[Number5]

Sign, sign, everywhere a sign
Blockin' out the scenery, breakin' my mind
Do this, don't do that, can't you read the sign?

[Camden_yardbird]

Players always say just change the signs, but I know those conventions are complex and they are still figured out.

Not to mention catchers getting crossed up and injured.

Not to mention umps getting injured from crossed up catchers.

Not to mention Manfred's game pace fixation.

IMO sign stealing, other than man on 2nd, should not be a part of the game.  Certainly not with any electronic means.

As I stated in the MLB thread, I think this punishment was light, I think it should have extended to the players, and I think this is a bigger scandal that steroids and will be shown to be such if baseball does it's due diligence and investigates every team and punishes them.

If baseball does its usual sweep under the rug than I think it will just continue the incentivization of cheating in the game, the widespread belief that it is a dirty game, and its continued degradation as an entertainment.

[BRobinsonfan]

2 hours ago, yeoledugger said:

What would Judge Landis do (WWJLD)?

You don't want to trifle with a man named after a Civil War Battle and a Mountain.