Jump to content

Buck interviewing for Astros job

Frobby

By Frobby
in MLB

 Share

Recommended Posts

  • Replies 158
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Popular Posts

weams
weams

I think Philip is incorrect here. Buck forgot more right things to do than many applicants will ever learn. 

mdbdotcom
mdbdotcom

He should insist on getting his boy Crush back.

Moose Milligan
Moose Milligan

Didn't know Buck was in charge of selecting the people who make cotton candy.

Frobby Hangout Grand Counsel

Frobby

Posted
  • Author
Posted
1 hour ago, andrewochs615 said:

I would like to root for Buck and with everything the Astros have done it is hard to root for them.

The Mets beat the Orioles in the 1969 World Series, when I was 12.   I will always hate them and root against them for that reason.   Always.   Buck or no Buck.   

  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Tony-OH Hangout Grand Counsel

Tony-OH

Posted
Posted

The game is moving away from hiring guys like Buck, despite his immense experience and baseball knowledge.

I would find it pretty funny that if they did hire Buck, he would now be reunited with Sarah Geller who was a Duquette hire to lead Orioles analytics, the same analytics Buck ignored for his own version.

Chalk me up as someone who would be surprised if the Astros go this route, but Buck would certainly be the straight and narrow opposite of what they had.

  • Upvote 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites
SteveA Hangout Grand Counsel

SteveA

Posted
Posted
1 minute ago, Tony-OH said:

The game is moving away from hiring guys like Buck, despite his immense experience and baseball knowledge.

I would find it pretty funny that if they did hire Buck, he would now be reunited with Sarah Geller who was a Duquette hire to lead Orioles analytics, the same analytics Buck ignored for his own version.

Chalk me up as someone who would be surprised if the Astros go this route, but Buck would certainly be the straight and narrow opposite of what they had.

Dan Connolly has a good column in The Athletic about it.   He said that a few weeks ago, he would have thought the Astros were the LAST team that would ever consider hiring Buck for the reasons you give.   And that those reasons still exist.   But in terms of taking over leadership of a talented team in crisis, in terms of making sure no further cheating takes place and protecting the integrity moving forward, suddenly he MIGHT be the best guy they could bring in.   It's a good read.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Tony-OH Hangout Grand Counsel

Tony-OH

Posted
Posted
Just now, SteveA said:

Dan Connolly has a good column in The Athletic about it.   He said that a few weeks ago, he would have thought the Astros were the LAST team that would ever consider hiring Buck for the reasons you give.   And that those reasons still exist.   But in terms of taking over leadership of a talented team in crisis, in terms of making sure no further cheating takes place and protecting the integrity moving forward, suddenly he MIGHT be the best guy they could bring in.   It's a good read.

Connolly was and apparently still is literally Buck's PR man, so I'm not surprised by his thoughts on this matter. 

  • Haha 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
OsFanSinceThe80s Hangout Grand Counsel

OsFanSinceThe80s

Posted
Posted
5 minutes ago, SteveA said:

Dan Connolly has a good column in The Athletic about it.   He said that a few weeks ago, he would have thought the Astros were the LAST team that would ever consider hiring Buck for the reasons you give.   And that those reasons still exist.   But in terms of taking over leadership of a talented team in crisis, in terms of making sure no further cheating takes place and protecting the integrity moving forward, suddenly he MIGHT be the best guy they could bring in.   It's a good read.

I could see Buck steering the ship for couple years while the Astros deal with the ramifications of this scandal. I think the last thing the Astros want to do here is go with an unknown quantity. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
SteveA Hangout Grand Counsel

SteveA

Posted
Posted
15 minutes ago, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

I could see Buck steering the ship for couple years while the Astros deal with the ramifications of this scandal. I think the last thing the Astros want to do here is go with an unknown quantity. 

I know one thing.   Buck wouldn't have dealt with the cheating in the weak, half-assed way Hinch did.   Hinch claims he was against it, but he never put a stop to it.   But on two occasions he destroyed the laptop they were using.   What kind of leadership is that?   And that is Hinch's description of his own actions.   Wasn't he in charge of the team?  

 

  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Moose Milligan Hangout Grand Counsel

Moose Milligan

Posted
Posted

I'd root for the Astros if they brought Buck aboard.

They canned Luhnow and Hinch.  Sure, they'd have some players remaining that benefited from the cheating but I can't imagine most players saying "no" to something that would give them a leg up on the competition that's not steroids.  I would bet that some of these guys lump sign stealing, corking bats and pitchers scuffing the ball with what just happened in Houston.  

Link to comment
Share on other sites
wildcard Hangout Grand Counsel

wildcard

Posted
Posted
3 hours ago, Tony-OH said:

The game is moving away from hiring guys like Buck, despite his immense experience and baseball knowledge.

I would find it pretty funny that if they did hire Buck, he would now be reunited with Sarah Geller who was a Duquette hire to lead Orioles analytics, the same analytics Buck ignored for his own version.

Chalk me up as someone who would be surprised if the Astros go this route, but Buck would certainly be the straight and narrow opposite of what they had.

Crane has a team that is talented enough to go back to the playoffs and possibly win the World Series.   He needs a manager that can establish stability and push the right buttons at the right time.   Someone that has successfully managed star players.   Of the guys on the published Astros list Bochy is the only manager that is better than Buck.  And Bochy reportedly does not want the job.

One thing we know about Buck.   He can schmooze an owner.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing


  • Posts

    • Just Regular
      Jackson Holliday 2024

      By Just Regular · Posted

      ZiPS being an inhuman thing incapable of recency bias is not much out on Holliday.    It only dings his 2025-2029 forecast WAR by about 3% today relative to what it was forecasting this spring. https://blogs.fangraphs.com/reassessing-the-future-for-this-seasons-disappointing-rookies/ Jackson Holliday’s numbers didn’t take a big hit for a few reasons. First, and most importantly, despite a really lousy debut in the majors, he played well enough in the minors — plus he’s so young and his résumé is so strong — that his small-sample struggles barely register. By reverse-o-fying Holliday’s major league woes into an untranslated minor league line and including it in his overall Triple-A production, ZiPS estimates that he would’ve had a 118 wRC+ in Triple-A this season, down from his actual mark of 142. A 20-year-old shortstop with a 118 wRC+ in Triple-A would still top everybody’s prospect list.
    • MurphDogg
      Santander taking grounders at first

      By MurphDogg · Posted

      Kjerstad should also get some reps in at first so he can be an option there as well, although now is probably not the time, best for him to DH for the rest of the season. He had 8 starts at first at AAA this season and 37 starts there between AA and AAA in 2023.
    • SteveA
      Santander taking grounders at first

      By SteveA · Posted

      Kjerstad
    • Frobby
      Tracking Ex Oriole Thread

      By Frobby · Posted

      In Grich’s case, I think his OBP skills weren’t appreciated at the time.  He was a .266 lifetime hitter in an era when that was maybe 10 points above average, but his .371 OBP was more like 45-50 points above average.  But OBP just wasn’t very valued at the time.  
    • Sports Guy
      Santander taking grounders at first

      By Sports Guy · Posted

      We don’t have a current combo that is ideal. You have to go with the best possible grouping you have.
    • Moose Milligan
      Tracking Ex Oriole Thread

      By Moose Milligan · Posted

      Yep, we're in agreement on the 70 rWAR threshold.  A championship would help Manny's cause, though I'm not sure if that's in the cards for him in the near future.  He needs a big moment on a big stage, too....as silly as that sounds, I do believe it matters in the eyes of some voters. Not to derail, but Whitaker is a guy that belongs in the HoF, too.  I'm not sure why Grich never got serious consideration.
    • Frobby
      Tracking Ex Oriole Thread

      By Frobby · Posted

      I’ve always felt that 70 rWAR was the line between having to justify why someone shouldn’t be in the HOF versus justifying why they should.  In other words, if you’re over 70, there needs to be a reason for you NOT to be in.  There are 70 position players over 70 WAR, and the only ones not in are Bonds, Pujols (not yet eligible), Trout (not yet eligible), Rose, Bill Dahlen, Lou Whitaker, Raffy Palmeiro, Bobby Grich, and Carlos Beltran.  Really, only Dahlen, Whitaker and Grich have no obvious reason why they’re not in.  And I wouldn’t bet against Beltran getting in eventually.  He’s gotten  46% and 57% of the ballots his first two tries.  

  • Popular Contributors

×
×
  • Create New...