MLB Pipeline: Austin Martin

[makoman]

1 hour ago, Can_of_corn said:

What I find interesting is the deadline isn't until Aug first.  So negotiations couldn't have been that difficult given Boras' penchant for waiting to sign.

I wonder if he’s in the running for a roster spot?

[SilverRocket]

 

[Can_of_corn]

So he signed for over 700K less than the Orioles' slot allotment for the number two pick.

[bobmc]

13 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

So he signed for over 700K less than the Orioles' slot allotment for the number two pick.

So they couldn't have gotten Blitsko or both of the two HS'ers then right?

[Can_of_corn]

2 minutes ago, bobmc said:

So they couldn't have gotten Blitsko or both of the two HS'ers then right?

They didn't get Bitsko anyway. 

If they had convinced him to sign for the 700K saving and went over the allotment they might have snagged one of them.

It certainly doesn't look like he would have refused to sign for slot.

[calsmanystances]

28 of 29 first round picks have now been signed. Garrett Mitchell (20^th overall to the Brewers) is the lone unsigned first-rounder. Of the 28 signed first-rounders, the largest underslot in terms of dollar amount are:

2. Heston Kjerstad: $2.59 million

23. Carson Tucker: $930,000

17. Nick Yorke: $910,000

8. Robert Hassell: $880,000

18. Bryce Jarvis: $830,000

25. Jared Shuster: $540,000

3. Max Meyer: $520,000

The largest underslot by percentage:

2. Heston Kjerstad: 33.25%

23. Carson Tucker: 31.74%

17. Nick Yorke: 25.20%

18. Bryce Jarvis: 23.85%

25. Jared Shuster: 19.71%

14. Justin Foscue: 19.55%

8. Robert Hassell: 16.99%

 

[BohKnowsBmore]

5 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

So he signed for over 700K less than the Orioles' slot allotment for the number two pick.

 

5 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

They didn't get Bitsko anyway. 

If they had convinced him to sign for the 700K saving and went over the allotment they might have snagged one of them.

It certainly doesn't look like he would have refused to sign for slot.

It's also possible he lost some leverage on his demands when teams let him go to number 5. Still got the 2nd highest SB of the draft. I don't know if it's logical to suggest he would have settled at the same place for the Orioles. And how do you arrive at the bolded when he just signed for well above the slot at which he was selected?

[Can_of_corn]

1 hour ago, BohKnowsBmore said:

 

It's also possible he lost some leverage on his demands when teams let him go to number 5. Still got the 2nd highest SB of the draft. I don't know if it's logical to suggest he would have settled at the same place for the Orioles. And how do you arrive at the bolded when he just signed for well above the slot at which he was selected?

He signed quickly (for a Boras client)and less than what the Jays could have paid.  You think it is reasonable to think he would have sat out with 700K more on the table?

[BohKnowsBmore]

10 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

He signed quickly (for a Boras client)and less than what the Jays could have paid.  You think it is reasonable to think he would have sat out with 700K more on the table?

How much more could the Jays have paid without incurring burdensome penalties?

Their bonus total is $10.2M and their allotment is/was $9.7M

https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/draft/2020/toronto-blue-jays/

I just don't see how you're using him signing over the slot at which he was selected, taking the team to it's 105% number in the process, as evidence that he would have signed for slot in Baltimore. If anything it rules out that he would have been an underslot candidate and/or is inconclusive evidence.

[Can_of_corn]

37 minutes ago, BohKnowsBmore said:

How much more could the Jays have paid without incurring burdensome penalties?

Their bonus total is $10.2M and their allotment is/was $9.7M

https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/draft/2020/toronto-blue-jays/

I just don't see how you're using him signing over the slot at which he was selected, taking the team to it's 105% number in the process, as evidence that he would have signed for slot in Baltimore. If anything it rules out that he would have been an underslot candidate and/or is inconclusive evidence.

Because he agreed to a lesser amount of money instead of going back to school.

[weams]

21 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

So he signed for over 700K less than the Orioles' slot allotment for the number two pick.

After he fell to the fifth pick and had to wait weeks. 

[SteveA]

Austin Martin was added to the Blue Jays 60 man player pool today.

[SteveA]

On 7/8/2020 at 5:39 PM, RZNJ said:

So, for the umteenth time, either Elias isn't so smart or maybe the Orioles actually like Kjerstad as much or more.  If Martin was higher on their board than Kjerstad and they clearly felt he was the better prospect then I disagree with what they did which leads me to the belief that the Orioles simply didn't evaluate Martin as highly as others have.

Isn't there a third possibility?

Maybe they felt Martin was a little better than Kjerstad but that bei g able to get the overslot guys they got in the 4th and 5th more than compensated for that difference.

[Frobby]

52 minutes ago, SteveA said:

Isn't there a third possibility?

Maybe they felt Martin was a little better than Kjerstad but that bei g able to get the overslot guys they got in the 4th and 5th more than compensated for that difference.

This is the most likely thing.    Though it’s also possible Elias thought there would be a good overslot candidate available at 30, and it didn’t play out that way.    

[BohKnowsBmore]

15 hours ago, Frobby said:

This is the most likely thing.    Though it’s also possible Elias thought there would be a good overslot candidate available at 30, and it didn’t play out that way.    

Definitely possible. Not that you're saying this, but I doubt that was the only option and Elias was caught with his pants down. Considering how fast Mayo and Baumler reportedly agreed to terms (and the surprise on draft night that Baumler was signable), we have to think that the FO had discussions with those two in advance. Put another way, they were likely one of several potential scenarios that would play out with underslot savings at #2.