Orioles make an offer to Yasiel Puig. UPDATE: Puig to sign with Braves Tests POSITIVE for COVID 19

[Ruzious]

5 hours ago, DrungoHazewood said:

You know I had to look this up, not doubting you, but it piqued my curiosity:

 

                                                                                                                                                 
Rk                Player Rbaser Year Age  Tm Lg   G  PA  AB   R   H 2B 3B HR RBI  BB IBB  SO HBP SH SF GDP SB CS   BA  OBP  SLG   OPS         Pos
1             Pat Duncan   -8.2 1922  28 CIN NL 151 670 607  94 199 44 12  8  94      40  31   1        22 12 28 .328 .370 .479  .850          *7
2           Tony Lazzeri   -8.0 1932  28 NYY AL 142 603 510  79 153 28 16 15 113      82  64   2         7 11 11 .300 .399 .506  .905       *4/5H
3            Dave Parker   -7.9 1985  34 CIN NL 160 694 635  88 198 42  4 34 125  52  24  80   3  0  4  26  5 13 .312 .365 .551  .916        *9/H
4         Randy Milligan   -7.5 1991  29 BAL AL 141 571 483  57 127 17  2 16  70  84   4 108   2  0  2  23  0  5 .263 .373 .406  .779      *3D/7H
5      Charlie Hollocher   -7.5 1922  26 CHC NL 152 692 592  90 201 37  8  3  69      58   5   5        37 19 29 .340 .403 .444  .847          *6
6        Harold Reynolds   -7.3 1988  27 SEA AL 158 663 598  61 169 26 11  4  41  51   1  51   2 10  2   9 35 29 .283 .340 .383  .723          *4
7           Manny Trillo   -7.3 1982  31 PHI NL 149 595 549  52 149 24  1  0  39  33   3  53   3  9  1  14  8 10 .271 .316 .319  .634        *4/H
8             Greg Gagne   -7.2 1994  32 KCR AL 107 409 375  39  97 23  3  7  51  27   0  79   4  2  1   8 10 17 .259 .314 .392  .706        *6/H
9            Roy Johnson   -7.2 1935  32 BOS AL 145 636 553  70 174 33  9  3  66      74  34   3         5 11 12 .315 .398 .423  .822        *7/H
10             Josh Bell   -7.0 2017  24 PIT NL 159 620 549  75 140 26  6 26  90  66   4 117   1  0  4  15  2  4 .255 .334 .466  .800       *3H/D
11             Red Kress   -7.0 1931  26 SLB AL 150 656 605  87 188 46  8 16 114      46  48   1         3  3 16 .311 .360 .493  .853     *5963/H
12           Aubrey Huff   -6.9 2009  32 TOT AL 150 597 536  59 129 30  1 15  85  51   7  87   5  0  5  15  0  6 .241 .310 .384  .694        *3DH
13             Pete Rose   -6.8 1982  41 PHI NL 162 720 634  80 172 25  4  3  54  66   9  32   7  8  3  12  8  8 .271 .345 .338  .683          *3
14           Dave Parker   -6.8 1977  26 PIT NL 159 706 637 107 215 44  8 21  88  58  13 107   7  0  4   7 17 19 .338 .397 .531  .927       *9/H4
15      Andrew McCutchen   -6.7 2018  31 TOT ML 155 682 569  83 145 30  3 20  65  95   1 145  11  0  7  12 14  9 .255 .368 .424  .792      *97/HD
16            Joey Votto   -6.6 2017  33 CIN NL 162 707 559 106 179 34  1 36 100 134  20  83   8  0  6  16  5  1 .320 .454 .578 1.032          *3
17        Prince Fielder   -6.6 2010  26 MIL NL 161 714 578  94 151 25  0 32  83 114  17 138  21  0  1  12  1  0 .261 .401 .471  .871        *3/D
18         Willie Horton   -6.6 1965  22 DET AL 143 572 512  69 140 20  2 29 104  48   9 101   6  2  4  12  5  9 .273 .340 .490  .831      *79/H5
19             J.T. Snow   -6.5 2000  32 SFG NL 155 627 536  82 152 33  2 19  96  66   6 129  11  0 14  20  1  3 .284 .365 .459  .824        *3/H
20        Gary Sheffield   -6.4 1996  27 FLA NL 161 677 519 118 163 33  1 42 120 142  19  66  10  0  6  16 16  9 .314 .465 .624 1.090        *9/H

 

As of today he's 4th worst all time.  Duncan had 11 steals and 28 caught that year.  Milligan must have just been thrown out on the bases an absurd number of times.  Dave Parker makes the list twice.  Nice to see Aubrey Huff up there, right next to the 41-year-old Pete Rose, probably still thinking he's 22.

 

I got it from an article that started by critiquing Puig's base-running.   https://www.espn.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/54131/yasiel-puig-and-baseballs-bad-baserunners

Since 1950 -- the first season for which there is complete play-by-play data -- Baseball-Reference's worst baserunning season belongs to Randy Milligan of the 1991 Orioles, who rated at minus-11.2 runs. That year, Milligan made six outs on the bases, was picked off twice, went 0-for-5 as a base stealer, grounded into 23 double plays and took the extra base just 25 percent of the time. Oddly, he had taken the extra base in 53 percent of his opportunities the year before, so he either lost his "speed" overnight or got injured.

The 10 worst baserunning seasons since 1950:

1. Randy Milligan, 1991 Orioles, -11.2 runs

2. Cecil Fielder, 1993 Tigers, -9.6 runs

3. J.T. Snow, 2000 Giants, -9.4 runs

4. Paul Konerko, 2006 White Sox, -9.3 runs

5. Dave Parker, 1985 Reds, -9.3 runs

6. Magglio Ordonez, 2008 White Sox, -8.7 runs

7. Kenji Johjima, 2007 Mariners, -8.5 runs

8. Harmon Killebrew, 1970 Twins, -8.5 runs

9. Billy Butler, 2010 Royals, -8.1 runs

10. Mike Piazza, 1996 Dodgers, -8.0 runs

No surprises on that list, which includes a bunch of big, slow guys who grounded into a lot of double plays and rarely took the extra base. Fielder took the extra base just 19 percent of the time in 1993, Snow 21 percent in 2000, Johjima just 17 percent in 2007. Parker was a little faster but was 5-for-18 stealing bases.

 

[survivedc]

8 hours ago, ScGO's said:

Wilkerson needs to play in 25 games, get most of his reps at 3B/2B/or COF, only swing against righties, and learn how to steal a base.  He is fast, and has good sprint speed analytics. He's just never developed into a base stealer.  But if his job is to play defense, steal a base or pinch run, and he can put up something close to the .783 OPS he had against lefties, he's a piece.

He isn’t going to turn into Justin Turner but he has skills and part of me is worried he will get released and some other team will be able to hone them.

[CarrRun49]

21 hours ago, DrungoHazewood said:

Even Earl gave up on Glenn Gulliver.  Gulliver's family of players is extinct.  I think the last guy who did nothing but work the count for walks was Lance Blankenship.

Any relation to Kenny Blankenship?

[CarrRun49]

14 hours ago, Ruzious said:

I got it from an article that started by critiquing Puig's base-running.   https://www.espn.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/54131/yasiel-puig-and-baseballs-bad-baserunners

 

 

Crazy to think how someone like Huff could hit for the cycle just two years prior with such poor running analytics.

[Moose Milligan]

19 hours ago, Beef Supreme said:

Did you forget to take your pills this morning?

Show us one single thing I have said in ANY of my posts in any thread where I support/defend Glenn Davis. And, no, citing factual stats proving that Moose did not lose time -- Milligan finished with the 3rd most PAs in '91 and the 4th most PAs in '92 -- does not count as sticking up for Glenn Davis or being an "apologist" for him. We will be waiting...

Did you see the part where I said "Well, I stand corrected." or were you too busy being offended?

In regards to being a Glenn Davis apologist, lighten up and take a joke.

But if you don't think Glenn Davis was brought here and made Milligan expendable, you're crazy.  

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-xpm-1991-01-11-9101020852-story.html

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The acquisition of Davis, 29, gives the Orioles three first basemen, with Randy Milligan and David Segui already on the roster. Davis, whose 144 home runs over the past five years ranks sixth best, is a right-handed hitter, as is Milligan. Segui is a switch-hitter.

Manager Frank Robinson said he was not concerned about the crowd at first base and wouldn't speculate on the possibility of one of the three being used in the outfield. He did confirm that the addition of Davis could expand the outfield playing time of Dwight Evans, whom the Orioles signed as a free agent last month.

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Milligan, likewise, said he has no resentment toward the players who made him expendable -- first basemen David Segui and Glenn Davis. "The Orioles have a good lineup," he said. "I've always liked David's tools. He's a good ballplayer. He'll do fine.

"Why should I feel bitter toward Glenn? He's a great person. I have no ill feeling toward him at all," said Milligan.

When it became obvious his days with the Orioles were over, Milligan had some decisions to make. One will result in a loss to the community he has served well.

https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xpm-1993-03-15-1993074002-story.html

 

 

[weams]

 

[SteveA]

1 hour ago, weams said:

 

And as a result of the positive test, he is no longer a Brave.   The contract had not yet been signed, I guess the coronavirus test was part of the pre-contract physical.

So he's a free agent again!   Want to move this back to the Oriole page?

[Moose Milligan]

Let's go!  We can get him on the cheap!

[Aristotelian]

4 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

Let's go!  We can get him on the cheap!

How low could he go? League minimum? 

[Can_of_corn]

33 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

Let's go!  We can get him on the cheap!

Now that officially no one else wants him the O's have a shot!

[Camden_yardbird]

1 hour ago, Moose Milligan said:

Let's go!  We can get him on the cheap!

I would still sign him.  He will probably miss a week of the season or so.

[MurphDogg]

Plan C, or D or E for the Braves search for outfield depth. Schebler is a player that (a) I have never heard of and (b) hit 30 home runs for the Reds in 2017. So that is something.