If Orioles start trading, what are some realistic return expectations?

[cnmilton]

20 hours ago, joelala said:

To clarify: you mean a top 20 prospect in someone’s org, not top 20 in all of baseball, yes? 
 

Sorry, I should have been a bit more specific: An organizational top 20 prospect and a lottery ticket, not a MLB top 20 prospect

 

[Roll Tide]

5 hours ago, DrungoHazewood said:

If you were a fan of the Brewers or Angels or something wouldn't you look at Severino as a kind of 2015 Gerardo Parra?  74 OPS+ previously, 168 OPS+ in 18 games.  My assumption is that going forward he's a 85 OPS+ guy with shaky defense.

Well he’s 27 not 30 or 31

he was +95 last year , 15, 16, 17 were cups of coffee seasons

in 2018 was his first real opportunity and he struggled.

So +35, +95, and +168 or whatever number he finishes that’s likely higher than +95 means he’s trending up.

If he had 4 or 5 full seasons or 7 like Parra I could see and agree with your point 

[DrungoHazewood]

11 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

Well he’s 27 not 30 or 31

he was +95 last year , 15, 16, 17 were cups of coffee seasons

in 2018 was his first real opportunity and he struggled.

So +35, +95, and +168 or whatever number he finishes that’s likely higher than +95 means he’s trending up.

If he had 4 or 5 full seasons or 7 like Parra I could see and agree with your point 

He has nearly 3000 PAs as a professional over the last decade and a .653 OPS.

[Roll Tide]

29 minutes ago, DrungoHazewood said:

He has nearly 3000 PAs as a professional over the last decade and a .653 OPS.

Really ... I don’t see anywhere near 3000 (link below)

I have no interest in his minor league numbers. What I noticed about his OPS as it seems to go up every year in the minors.

Id expect him to finish this year plus .100. 
 

he appears to be establishing himself as an everyday MLB player 

So we will see

 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/severpe01.shtml

[Can_of_corn]

https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=severi000ped

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[Roll Tide]

1 hour ago, Can_of_corn said:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=severi000ped

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So ...if he had played in college would we be counting his NCAA stats? 
 

I have no interest in counting stats from a player between 17-21. Especially Latino players

[makoman]

35 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

So ...if he had played in college would we be counting his NCAA stats? 
 

I have no interest in counting stats from a player between 17-21. Especially Latino players

Fine he has a 664 OPS in AAA, age 22 plus. 

People don’t often do better in the majors than they do in the minors. Ignoring minor league stats isn’t the best practice IMO. 
 

And weren’t you using college stats to complain about our draft picks, and how BA in college couldn’t translate to the pros and whatnot?

[Camden_yardbird]

9 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

Right, if they kick in some money.  So negative value.

Sometimes you have to pay money for prospects, and good teams do.

[Can_of_corn]

3 minutes ago, Camden_yardbird said:

Sometimes you have to pay money for prospects, and good teams do.

I'm not talking about getting prospects back.  I'm saying I don't think they can get someone that will just take over the contract.