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Frobby Hangout Grand Counsel

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Nice to see the Big Three as 1-3 for the 2011 rotation. Burnett would probably still be a #3 by then if we were to sign him, but Tillman and Matusz should be 1-2...

2011 may be a little early for these guys to be 1-2. At best, they will each be in their 2nd full year in the majors.

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I found it surprising the statement about Guthrie being better suited for the middle to the back end of the rotation. Pitchers sporting a 3.70 and 3.63 ERA with a WHIP around 1.2 in the AL east should be considered better then back-end material.

It just boggles me that Guts is regularly overlooked. Not only does he have a variety of pitches and good control but he also seems to field his position extremely well.

obviously, I like Guthrie and wish the media would jump on the bandwagon too.

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I found it surprising the statement about Guthrie being better suited for the middle to the back end of the rotation. Pitchers sporting a 3.70 and 3.63 ERA with a WHIP around 1.2 in the AL east should be considered better then back-end material.

It just boggles me that Guts is regularly overlooked. Not only does he have a variety of pitches and good control but he also seems to field his position extremely well.

obviously, I like Guthrie and wish the media would jump on the bandwagon too.

Eh, who cares what they think? My main wish for Guthrie in 2009 is that he gets through the entire year healthy.

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The only surprise is Mickolio. Lingo brought him up but I didn't realize they thought that highly of him. Obviously I respectfully disagree with him being so high over guys who have a much better upside and even guys who've had more success at the same levels.

Is he better than Hoey and McCory, I think so, but I think top ten is a little high for him.

As for Erbe, I said all along that my Erbe placement would be lower than most people. Again, time will tell who's right. If I saw more movement on that fastball I'd be more excited but I think that lack of movement will hurt him at the higher levels unless he can start using that two-seam sinker more effectively and more often.

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The only surprise is Mickolio. Lingo brought him up but I didn't realize they thought that highly of him. Obviously I respectfully disagree with him being so high over guys who have a much better upside and even guys who've had more success at the same levels.

Is he better than Hoey and McCory, I think so, but I think top ten is a little high for him.

As for Erbe, I said all along that my Erbe placement would be lower than most people. Again, time will tell who's right. If I saw more movement on that fastball I'd be more excited but I think that lack of movement will hurt him at the higher levels unless he can start using that two-seam sinker more effectively and more often.

I honestly have no idea where they came up with [Luis Hernandez for 2011 starting SS]. Miclat or Blake Davis would be much better in house choices for that position.

I think the Mickolio pick and the idea that LH could be our 2011 SS are evidence that BA doesn't follow our organization as closely as OH. Accordingly, I don't necessarily give much weight to the fact that BA ranked Erbe as high as they did. Remember, they also had Erbe as the #8 prospect in the Carolina League, so obviously they like him. I like him too, but you explained very well your reasons to downgrade him so all I can do is wait until 2009 and hope he proves you wrong.

What do you (or our other posters who have observed our players) think about their "best tools" ratings?

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I found it surprising the statement about Guthrie being better suited for the middle to the back end of the rotation. Pitchers sporting a 3.70 and 3.63 ERA with a WHIP around 1.2 in the AL east should be considered better then back-end material.

I just wrote to BA asking them exactly which which teams they think Guthrie would be a back-end starter on.

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What do you (or our other posters who have observed our players) think about their "best tools" ratings?

Can't really argue with the tools picks. You can nitpick and put Avery over Henson for best athlete, but really, they're both outstanding and Henson gets the edge for having the better arm.

Overall it's solid assessment although I have to caveat that with the fact I've never seen Matusz pitch live yet.

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Now, I've been out of the country for a few weeks but I found one part of this very confusing.

The Orioles decided to try Loewen as a position player and removed him from the 40-man roster after the season, with plans to re-sign him, but he decided to join the Blue Jays instead.

Did this really happen?

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Now, I've been out of the country for a few weeks but I found one part of this very confusing.

Did this really happen?

What part of the world were you in that Loewen's defection wasn't front page news? What a backwater it must have been!

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