Update on Kjerstad (No Bueno)

[Can_of_corn]

Just now, scOtt said:

I think teams see Elias' intentions.

Sure, but if they have an inkling that ownership won't fully back him they'll still be laughing.  Half measures won't work in the AL East.

[scOtt]

1 minute ago, Can_of_corn said:

Sure, but if they have an inkling that ownership won't fully back him they'll still be laughing.  Half measures won't work in the AL East.

Hmmm... that's true.

[Sports Guy]

17 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Astros did.

Twice

[Can_of_corn]

Just now, Sports Guy said:

Twice

I don't count the one since they got to pick 1-2 the following year.  Now if they had signed him like they tried...

[Hazmat]

Way too early to count him out forever.  This year may be done but let’s hope he and his doctors can work things out and have him ready to go next spring.

[oh-wee-ohs]

Sounds like there needs to be a reminder that no one could see this coming. No amount of "research" changes that. Can't predict how a young, healthy, 21(2?) year old responds to Covid. Whether he went 2nd, 5th or 10th. Rare, unpredictable and unfortunate circumstance. Sucks it happened to us and our guy. Can't fault anyone for that. Hope he gets better soon.

[ChosenOne21]

32 minutes ago, NelsonCruuuuuz said:

Yeah, why hold Elias accountable for anything? We are only the laughing stock of baseball that refuses to cut dead weight off the 40-man roster (Davis).
 

When you are rebuilding, you can’t afford to miss on the first round and you better do in depth research. I have heard that wasn’t done here because they thought they could get a couple down in price.

Again, I like Elias, but fans trust him way too much. Same posters singing the praises of Joe Jordan as he pissed away numerous drafts.

So you're saying if Elias had done more research on Kjerstad he would have known about the heart condition before the draft? Was there readily available evidence Kjerstad had a heart problem? Did other teams come out and say they were going to pass on him because of a heart condition?

Do you think the team doctors who did a physical on him before signing his contract didn't do an in-depth job for some reason?

You wouldn't have made this thread if we'd drafted Austin Martin and he came down with a heart condition. You're mad that Elias didn't pick a guy that publications (who by the way know less about most prospects than any major league team) thought was about six picks higher than the guy we took. And because you're mad, you've decided that everything that goes wrong with Heston Kjerstad is a black mark on Elias.

I'm sure if Kjerstad tripped walking down some stairs and had to miss the season because of a compound fracture, you'd probably be mad that Elias didn't properly test Kjerstad's coordination before signing him.

Consider that you're talking about something you know nothing about and should stop.

[NelsonCruuuuuz]

11 minutes ago, ChosenOne21 said:

So you're saying if Elias had done more research on Kjerstad he would have known about the heart condition before the draft? Was there readily available evidence Kjerstad had a heart problem? Did other teams come out and say they were going to pass on him because of a heart condition?

Do you think the team doctors who did a physical on him before signing his contract didn't do an in-depth job for some reason?

You wouldn't have made this thread if we'd drafted Austin Martin and he came down with a heart condition. You're mad that Elias didn't pick a guy that publications (who by the way know less about most prospects than any major league team) thought was about six picks higher than the guy we took. And because you're mad, you've decided that everything that goes wrong with Heston Kjerstad is a black mark on Elias.

I'm sure if Kjerstad tripped walking down some stairs and had to miss the season because of a compound fracture, you'd probably be mad that Elias didn't properly test Kjerstad's coordination before signing him.

Consider that you're talking about something you know nothing about and should stop.

You don’t know a damn thing about me and what I know and don’t know or who I know or what I have heard. Such courage from posters on an internet message board. Go back to your mantra that Elias is god and Os are a well oiled machine. You are the one that should not talk about info you don’t know a thing about. 
 

 

[Can_of_corn]

21 minutes ago, oh-wee-ohs said:

Sounds like there needs to be a reminder that no one could see this coming. No amount of "research" changes that. Can't predict how a young, healthy, 21(2?) year old responds to Covid. Whether he went 2nd, 5th or 10th. Rare, unpredictable and unfortunate circumstance. Sucks it happened to us and our guy. Can't fault anyone for that. Hope he gets better soon.

I had not heard that Covid was involved.  Where did you find that information?

[ChosenOne21]

5 minutes ago, NelsonCruuuuuz said:

You don’t know a damn thing about me and what I know and don’t know or who I know or what I have heard.

 

So if you have so much information about the whole situation, why didn't you lead with that?

[Sports Guy]

1 minute ago, ChosenOne21 said:

So if you have so much information about the whole situation, why didn't you lead with that?

Hard to lead with something you don’t have.

[ChosenOne21]

Just now, Sports Guy said:

Hard to lead with something you don’t have.

This guy gets it

[Frobby]

1 hour ago, Can_of_corn said:

I was just naming a guy that was a high draft pick that was supposedly never healthy.

If healthy I think Kjerstad is a better prospect than a healthy Hobgood would have been.

We will never know.   I just hope Kjerstad eventually gets healthy and, secondarily, is able to play baseball.   

[oh-wee-ohs]

18 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I had not heard that Covid was involved.  Where did you find that information?

I swore I read that. Or maybe I just read a bunch of inferences. Hard not to put 2 and 2 together, I guess. Given a "inflammation of the heart" is a symptom of Covid, when it's the year Covid. We saw it with Eduardo, that college bball kid from FSU (?). Anyways, no sources, probably inferred. My apologies. 

The rest of my point still stands.

 

[scOtt]

That was WAY a strike Maikel!

 

I think that was Franco...