Labor Day afternoon: Game 1 of the Orioles biggest doubleheader in decades

[Tony-OH]

4 minutes ago, baltfan said:

You are probably right that Sulser would have been the better choice here, but not Perez. 

Well, I probably would not have pulled Baker with no one on in the 8th. Then yes, I would not have gone with Perez. 

[Tony-OH]

1 minute ago, dtk9119 said:

Hyde has really wet the bed last 2 days:

1. Starting Chirinos in 2/3 days vs Oakland 

2. Not PH Stowers or Vavra for Aguilar in 7th.

3. Bringing hall back out for 9th after we cut it to one

4. Not throwing a tantrum and getting tossed to fire his team up

5. Likely starting Chirinos again in game 2

Well he has to start Chirinos in game two as Rutschman is not catching a double header. Why Aguilar is starting against right-hander is beyond understanding.

[Moose Milligan]

2 minutes ago, eddie83 said:

There is no certainty. What if Perez throws 28 pitches and let’s up a run?

It’s all a calculated risk  

Would have to believe Akin and big 3 are set for Game 2. 9 man pen. No Vespi.  

I like Perez’s chances to get through a clean inning before Hall pours gas all over everything. I’m good with burning Perez in game 1 to give keep it 4-3 headed to the bottom of the 9th.  Stashing ALL THE GOOD BULLPEN ARMS for game 2 is silly.  Lyles can get 5, Akin, Tate, Bautista. Done. 

[Tony-OH]

3 minutes ago, Aristotelian said:

Gausman has reverse splits and Aguilar did get a base hit. I don't think that was the issue today. 

A weakass single is not going to make him a better choice. His only role should be right-handed pinch hitter against a lefty late in games when a home run is needed. He really doesn't belong on this team.

He wasn't the reason the team lost, but he does not belong starting against any right-handed pitcher regardless of splits.

[Moshagge3]

Just now, Tony-OH said:

A weakass single is not going to make him a better choice. His only role should be right-handed pinch hitter against a lefty late in games when a home run is needed. He really doesn't belong on this team.

He wasn't the reason the team lost, but he does not belong starting against any right-handed pitcher regardless of splits.

His single was a rocket up the middle.

[dtk9119]

2 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

Well he has to start Chirinos in game two as Rutschman is not catching a double header. Why Aguilar is starting against right-hander is beyond understanding.

tThat's why I didn't get him starting Chirinos yesterday if he knew Adley was not catching both ends of DH.

[Tony-OH]

Just now, Moshagge3 said:

His single was a rocket up the middle.

I meant it was a single. It didn't even move the runner up two bases. He's here I guess to hit for power. He's been worthless.

[eddie83]

Just now, Moose Milligan said:

I like Perez’s chances to get through a clean inning before Hall pours gas all over everything. I’m good with burning Perez in game 1 to give keep it 4-3 headed to the bottom of the 9th.  Stashing ALL THE GOOD BULLPEN ARMS for game 2 is silly.  Lyles can get 5, Akin, Tate, Bautista. Done. 

Great. They are up/tied in the middle innings of Game 2 at some point Hall is pitching. You assume none of those arms have any issues. 
 

9 man pen 

No Vespi 

Joey K used 

BB used 

Saving big 3 

 

So you use Akin, Sulser or Hall. If you use Perez then that leaves you with 2 from Group A in Game 2. Unless we blow them out somebody other than the big 3 has to get big outs today at some point. What if Lyles can’t go deep? What if a rain delay? 

[Tony-OH]

1 minute ago, dtk9119 said:

tThat's why I didn't get him starting Chirinos yesterday if he knew Adley was not catching both ends of DH.

No catcher is going to catch both games of a DH anymore.

[Moose Milligan]

1 minute ago, eddie83 said:

Great. They are up/tied in the middle innings of Game 2 at some point Hall is pitching. You assume none of those arms have any issues. 
 

9 man pen 

No Vespi 

Joey K used 

BB used 

Saving big 3 

 

So you use Akin, Sulser or Hall. If you use Perez then that leaves you with 2 from Group A in Game 2. Unless we blow them out somebody other than the big 3 has to get big outs today at some point. What if Lyles can’t go deep? What if a rain delay? 

My what-If scenarios are better than your what-if scenarios. 

[Aristotelian]

Just now, Tony-OH said:

I meant it was a single. It didn't even move the runner up two bases. He's here I guess to hit for power. He's been worthless.

It didn't move the runner up because it was hit hard. It was game 1 of a double header with 2 RHPs. As long as he is on the team I have no problem with him starting against the reverse split guy. If he starts game 2 I will be alarmed. What he's doing on the team is the better question.

[eddie83]

Just now, Moose Milligan said:

My what-If scenarios are better than your what-if scenarios. 

So you win!!!!!!!

[baltfan]

10 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

Well he has to start Chirinos in game two as Rutschman is not catching a double header. Why Aguilar is starting against right-hander is beyond understanding.

They seem very down on Stowers who I will say hasn’t looked that great, but Adley looked like shit for the first 30 or so games too

[Moshagge3]

In hindsight, the game really turned on Hays and Mateo popping up fastballs down the middle with two runners on in the 6th. Anyone in Toronto's lineup, top to bottom, punishes those pitches.

[baltfan]

Hall sucked, but this game was lost when we had the middle of our order all strikeout with Adley on second.  The offense has been anemic.