Grayson Rodriguez 2023

[emmett16]

2 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

Interestingly, Rodriguez appears to have taken a little bit off velocity wise for the increased command. It will be interesting to see if that's what he did r if his velocity was just a bit down for whatever reason.  

 

I wonder if he wasn’t getting movement on his off-speed deliveries  due overthrowing them a bit and consciously decided to dial everything down to get his movement & break back. 

[Tony-OH]

3 minutes ago, emmett16 said:

I wonder if he wasn’t getting movement on his off-speed deliveries  due overthrowing them a bit and consciously decided to dial everything down to get his movement & break back. 

It will be interesting to see how the numbers look in his next start. I really don't care how hard he throws if he's going to toss five shutout innings with 9 Ks.

[nvpacchi]

Definitely had the lowest velo of his season so far, interesting that his max velo on Saturday sat below his average velo in his first 3 starts. (The middle line inside of each box is the average velo/ride for each start).

Also with the downtick in velo, his vertical break on the fastball also went down about 1".  The CSW was meh at 24% on the four seam on Saturday, but all his other secondaries played so well, you don't really care if the fastball shape wasn't at its usual peak.  If he can harness 3 secondaries by tempering his approach, I'm all for it too! 

It was also low 60s and probably felt colder in Detroit on Saturday.  A bit blustery for the Texas boy.

 

 

Edited May 1, 2023 by nvpacchi

[Brooks The Great]

17 hours ago, eddie83 said:

The only logic I could see in Kremer facing ATL is if they think they can use an extrawork day to help him out. Otherwise it’s a no brainer. Let him face KC 

Also if Kremer faces KC and struggles again, it's a much easier decision to demote him to the minors.

[Just Regular]

5 hours ago, nvpacchi said:

A bit blustery for the Texas boy.

One of my hopes as the year and years go along is Nacogdoches helps us out.

I saw Peter Fairbanks Friday had to depart as an April night game in Chicago froze his fingers.

[emmett16]

Didn’t know where to post this.  We talk a lot about the Orioles “babying” pitchers and Grayson specifically so I figured this would be a good spot.  I’ve spent the last few years studying on work loads, mechanics, and monitoring acute and chronic fatigue.  This article sums up everything that goes into the decision making process nicely:

https://apple.news/AXr8bLSCjTn-D0NpM3-Nsig
 

Edited May 2, 2023 by emmett16

[Just Regular]

3 hours ago, emmett16 said:

Didn’t know where to post this.  We talk a lot about the Orioles “babying” pitchers and Grayson specifically so I figured this would be a good spot.  I’ve spent the last few years studying on work loads, mechanics, and monitoring acute and chronic fatigue.  This article sums up everything that goes into the decision making process nicely:

https://apple.news/AXr8bLSCjTn-D0NpM3-Nsig
 

Verducci's a good chronicler.

The Grayson choice of weak lineup on 4 days or strong lineup on 5 days will be interesting to see how the cross pressures are evaluated.     Thursday vs. Lyles also a getaway day scenario, so another fraction less.

Fresher Grayson vs. Acuna, etc would be spicier theater.

The Braves coming off the Monday doubleheader have a similar choice with Strider and Morton - Strider's 107 pitches Monday were a career high.     Saturday or Sunday?

Edited May 2, 2023 by Just Regular

[Frobby]

There's a few Grayson threads going but this seemed like the logical one in which to post this.   I was at the game last night and it seemed to me that Grayson was throwing his curve ball way more than in other starts.  So, I've gone through the gamefeeds from all of Grayson's starts, and put together this chart .  All numbers are percentages of pitches thrown, not raw numbers.

Date	FB	Cutter	Change	Curve	Slider
4.05	49	5	17	6	23
4.11	46	1	18	3	31
4.16	40	17	29	1	13
4.23	45	5	18	13	18
4.29	45	11	25	11	8
5.04	42	22	25	5	6
5.09	31	20	26	18	6

This shows some interesting trends.  Grayson was relying very heavily on his slider in his early starts, but has thrown it only occasionally the last three outings.  He's gone to his curve a lot more recently, and also is throwing his cutter a great deal more than in his early starts.

Per Fangraphs, the changeup has been his most effective pitch (no surprise there), followed by the cutter.  His other pitches have negative pitch values, with the fastball being the worst, followed by the curve and the slider.  

It will be interesting to follow how Grayson's pitch mix evolves as the year goes along.  

Edited May 10, 2023 by Frobby

[Can_of_corn]

7 minutes ago, Frobby said:

There's a few Grayson threads going but this seemed like the logical one in which to post this.   I was at the game last night and it seemed to me that Grayson was throwing his curve ball way more than in other starts.  So, I've gone through the gamefeeds from all of Grayson's starts, and put together this chart .  All numbers are percentages of pitches thrown, not raw numbers.

Date	FB	Cutter	Change	Curve	Slider
4.05	49	5	17	6	23
4.11	46	1	18	3	31
4.16	40	17	29	1	13
4.23	45	5	18	13	18
4.29	45	11	25	11	8
5.04	42	22	25	5	6
5.09	31	20	26	18	6

This shows some interesting trends.  Grayson was relying very heavily on his slider in his early starts, but has thrown it only occasionally the last three outings.  He's gone to his curve a lot more recently, and also is throwing his cutter a great deal more than in his early starts.

Per Fangraphs, the changeup has been his most effective pitch (no surprise there), followed by the cutter.  His other pitches have negative pitch values, with the fastball being the worst, followed by the curve and the slider.  

It will be interesting to follow how Grayson's pitch mix evolves as the year goes along.  

It might not be evolution, I would think that the mix would vary with the opposition.

[Frobby]

1 minute ago, Can_of_corn said:

It might not be evolution, I would think that the mix would vary with the opposition.

I agree.  Or, just going with whatever’s feeling good on a given night.  But I have a feeling that he’s cut back on the slider because he hasn’t had good command of it.  

[jabba72]

6 IP 10 K's 1 BB 1 HR allowed tonight in Wilkes Barre/Scranton. Does that one or two more consecutive starts and I have to think he'll be called up. 

[Sports Guy]

He did give up 3 runs and a homer but 68% strike%. 
 

28 missed bats!  Holy sh**!!

[Redgrape]

I watched the whole game. Seemed to make a concerted effort to pitch fastballs lower in the zone early. Control looked better than any of his starts in Baltimore this season. He was also up against a lineup with many major leaguers like Franchy Cordero and Wilmer Difo, as well as great prospects. Impressive!

[Tony-OH]

He still only threw 46 pitches of his 98 in the strike zone. Getting AAA hitters to chase is not super hard with his stuff so I would have liked to have seen him work more in the zone.

Pitches in strikezone:

FB - 22 of 46
CH -  10 of 18
CB -  6 of 13
CT - 2 of 8
SL - 1 of 9
 

He got most of his WHIF on fastball's up from what I can tell. A little better on getting his offspeed pitches over.

 

[Sports Guy]

1 hour ago, Tony-OH said:

He still only threw 46 pitches of his 98 in the strike zone. Getting AAA hitters to chase is not super hard with his stuff so I would have liked to have seen him work more in the zone.

Pitches in strikezone:

FB - 22 of 46
CH -  10 of 18
CB -  6 of 13
CT - 2 of 8
SL - 1 of 9
 

He got most of his WHIF on fastball's up from what I can tell. A little better on getting his offspeed pitches over.

 

Well it depends. He had a 68% str%, so if he was getting ahead and then guys were go out of the zone vs his offspeed stuff, that’s what you want.