Gunnar Henderson 2023

[Tony-OH]

18 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

Gunnar has himself a new Topps card as part of their living set:  https://www.topps.com/cards-collectibles/online-brands/living-settm/topps-mlbr-living-setr-card-620-gunnar-henderson.html

Looks like a pissed off biker, IMO.

He really does!

[Tony-OH]

5 hours ago, TommyPickles said:

I feel like this point has been made ad nauseam, but I wish they'd just move Frazier to a bench role.

I'd like to see Henderson, Urias, and Mateo out there just about every day. 

Mateo has over 1.000 OPS against both righties and lefties this season. He needs to be out there every day.

Urias has a higher career OPS against righties and lefties than Frazier. His 2023 OPS (.760, 114 OPS+) is about .100 points higher than Frazier's (.663, 85 OPS+)

Gunnar needs to get opportunities against righties and lefties to develop his game. We're 20-9 despite his numbers against LHP (which, to be fair, have only been 30 PA and he's walked 8 of those).

 

 

I think we all would like to see, but alas, Elias has to ride out his $8 million investment for awhile. It's hard to argue with a 20-9 record, but you do have to wonder how much better this team would be without Frazier and with Westburg or Ortiz on this roster instead. 

I respect a lot of what Elias has done, but no one will ever convince me that signing Frazier was the right thing to do with the talent he already had on hand. 

I do think Henderson needs to play everyday at 3B with the occasional day off and the occasional SS day when Mateo needs a day off. 

[emmett16]

4 hours ago, joelala said:

To me he looks like he doesn’t believe in his ability to do damage when he swings, which I’d argue a sports psychologist could help. And based on his struggles against lefties throughout his (short) career and his trouble against breaking stuff this year, it’s also entirely conceivable that his swing may need to be tweaked. It’s not as if the Kelenic comp is some sort of death sentence but if this continues, I’m not sure how you could not see the similarities. 
 

 

I think he believes in himself a little too much.  He must have off-the-charts vision.  His ability to recognize pitches & locations is really darn near second to none and he’s only 21.  Once he starts tattooing a couple mistakes, pitchers are going to get even more precise/conscious of his abilities and make more mistakes/miss more often.  It’s just a patience game with this guy.  He’s going to go off.  
 

The LHP issues are a little concerning but I’m willing to give home a little lead way.  
 

I don’t think he needs to be sent down or suggest he ought to, but if he were I’d be OK because he’d be replaced with Westburg or Ortiz and I believe in all their abilities.  I think we look back at this at end of the year as a blip on the radar & Gunnar, Westburg, & Ortiz have all made significant contributions.  

[NCRaven]

I think Dean Kremer's performance has hurt the team more than Frazier's.  Having said that, I'd still like to see more of Ortiz or anything of Westburg.

[turtlebowl]

To me Gunner has been way too passive early in counts.  My guess is he is really trying to adopt the team hitting concept and he is probably over thinking instead of just looking for a strike and letting it fly.  My guess is the walks will come down and his average will start going up if he becomes more aggressive.  If he continues this though you could see a point where he may lose confidence and may need a reset in the minors.  

I have little doubt he will figure it out, just not sure how long the process may take.

[backdoorslider]

Henderson's agent is Scott Boras. Tells me what I need to know. Trade his ass.

[Frobby]

1 minute ago, backdoorslider said:

Henderson's agent is Scott Boras. Tells me what I need to know. Trade his ass.

I’ll worry about that in a few years, not now.  

[Frobby]

Just now, backdoorslider said:

Tells me what kind of guy he is. Ultra greedy Republican capitalist douche. Probably super MAGA. Nah, can't say I want these types of guys on the team. 

1.  That’s an awful lot to assume.

2.  There’s a rule against discussing politics on this site.  

[backdoorslider]

1 minute ago, Frobby said:

1.  That’s an awful lot to assume.

2.  There’s a rule against discussing politics on this site.  

He's a Boras client. Enough said.

[maybenxtyr]

Just now, backdoorslider said:

He's a Boras client. Enough said.

That's a pretty open minded take.

[RZNJ]

As little as Henderson has hit it’s amazing how much respect he gets from the pitchers.  He has a great eye but he also doesn’t get a lot to hit.  So far, when he does he’s been mostly missing it.  I like his swing a lot better now compared to earlier in the season where it looked like he was trying to muscle up.   Still feels like he’s over swinging a bit.   

[backdoorslider]

5 minutes ago, maybenxtyr said:

That's a pretty open minded take.

Boras clients are not the type of guys I want. People hire Boras for one reason and one reason only which is to sell themselves to the highest bidder. No loyalty from these guys.

[Ohfan67]

1 hour ago, backdoorslider said:

Tells me what kind of guy he is. Ultra greedy Republican capitalist douche. Probably super MAGA. Nah, can't say I want these types of guys on the team. 

Take that crap somewhere else. 

[Hank Scorpio]

Nice quick barrel vs. Lyles today! Coming around a little hopefully?

Good to see the kid smiling.

[Sports Guy]

Just now, Hank Scorpio said:

Nice quick barrel vs. Lyles today! Coming around a little hopefully?

Good to see the kid smiling.

If only we had sent him down…