Arm injury for Bautista?

[Malike]

1 minute ago, schittenden said:

How is that possible if there are teams with fewer total wins than we do that have more one run wins that we do?

I'm no mathematician but a team with a 27-11 record or 26-11 record in 1 run games would probably have a higher winning percentage in said games than a team with a 23-11 record.

[rm5678]

4 minutes ago, Sanity Check said:

 The outcome of the game doesn't minimize the fact the he didn't hold the lead.

 

One of the blown saves wouldn't have been blown if Ryan McKenna didn't drop the pop-up in LF.

[Malike]

Just now, rm5678 said:

One of the blown saves wouldn't have been blown if Ryan McKenna didn't drop the pop-up in LF.

That's important to note. Several of the blown saves wouldn't have been blown if Bautista didn't give up HR's. It's a team game, the closer doesn't rely on doing everything himself, the defense let him down less than he let them down.

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, rm5678 said:

One of the blown saves wouldn't have been blown if Ryan McKenna didn't drop the pop-up in LF.

I'm guessing if you were to check the film you'd probably find a game that he should have had a blown save in and instead the defense made a great play.

The type of thing tends to even out over a season.

[Explosivo]

Orioles are in a good spot to cover this obviously terrible loss. Thank God we have guys like Hall, Means, and Wells waiting in the wings to pick this team up. It's a terrible loss, no doubt, but if there's anything this team is, it's resilient. 

[Hallas]

1 minute ago, Can_of_corn said:

I'm guessing if you were to check the film you'd probably find a game that he should have had a blown save in and instead the defense made a great play.

The type of thing tends to even out over a season.

While not ruling it out, a pitcher that gets well over 50% of his outs by strikeout isn't going to rely on his defense much.

[schittenden]

5 minutes ago, Malike said:

I'm no mathematician but a team with a 27-11 record or 26-11 record in 1 run games would probably have a higher winning percentage in said games than a team with a 23-11 record.

I would agree.  He actually said a higher percentage of one-run wins, which would suggest that a greater percentage of total wins are by one run, which also can't be true if we have more total wins but fewer wins by one run than other teams.

[Can_of_corn]

11 minutes ago, Sanity Check said:

That means that we either scored the next inning and won the game at home, or someone else saved that game on the road.  Either way, they were blown saves.  The outcome of the game doesn't minimize the fact the he didn't hold the lead.

That being said, I'd still rather have him healthy and pitching for my team, so I'm not being negative towards him above, just clarifying that 4 times he blew saves, THE TEAM was good enough to overcome it.  4 out of 6 times....I kind of like those odds.

I do think there is some value in blowing a save while still keeping the score close enough that the offense can retake the lead.

Not a huge amount of value but there is a difference in letting them tie the game and letting them pull ahead by multiple runs.

[Roll Tide]

 

[baltfan]

I know it won't happen, but how awesome would it be if in the ninth inning today, the lights go down, you hear the whistle, and Kevin Brown, doing his best Jerry Lawler impression when he would act stunned that Stone Cold was coming out, is flummoxed by Bautista coming to the mound.

[Sanity Check]

32 minutes ago, Alasdaire said:

I would rather not put Yennier in the closer role yet. MASN showed a graphic recently showing how dramatically he has changed his pitch selection/location since the beginning of the season. Which is understandable given that he's a rookie who experienced a ton of success early before the league adjusted. I don't think the ninth inning is an good spot to be tinkering with your approach. Ditto with Fuji. Put a finished product like Danny there for the time being.

I've seen Danny hang breaking balls to Kevin Pillar and Harrison Bader this year to cost us ballgames.  He's a really good reliever, don't get me wrong, but he too can make pretty drastic mistakes to what I would consider to be lesser hitters.  We just need to see who runs best with this opportunity.

[Baltimorecuse]

20 minutes ago, Sanity Check said:

That means that we either scored the next inning and won the game at home, or someone else saved that game on the road.  Either way, they were blown saves.  The outcome of the game doesn't minimize the fact the he didn't hold the lead.

That being said, I'd still rather have him healthy and pitching for my team, so I'm not being negative towards him above, just clarifying that 4 times he blew saves, THE TEAM was good enough to overcome it.  4 out of 6 times....I kind of like those odds.

The way I read it, he blew the save and then got the win times.  Frobby bot could find that  in a millisecond. 

[rm5678]

3 minutes ago, baltfan said:

I know it won't happen, but how awesome would it be if in the ninth inning today, the lights go down, you hear the whistle, and Kevin Brown, doing his best Jerry Lawler impression when he would act stunned that Stone Cold was coming out, is flummoxed by Bautista coming to the mound.

Kevin Brown is off tonight, so Brett Hollander would have to do that.

[Baltimorecuse]

10 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I do think there is some value in blowing a save while still keeping the score close enough that the offense can retake the lead.

Not a huge amount of value but there is a difference in letting them tie the game and letting them pull ahead by multiple runs.

Ya think.  I just thought it was interesting we were able to reverse the momentum.  

[Fan4Life]

Seeing a lot of gloom and doom here... did everyone miss this comment in Roch's post on MASN or has there been an update?

A teammate said later that Bautista felt much better after the game. The pain in the elbow/biceps area was momentary, just on the one pitch, but alarming.

A shutdown period was expected at the least.