The O's are trading or releasing some relievers this off season

[sportsfan8703]

54 minutes ago, glenn__davis said:

God bless you guys.  With all due respect who cares about next year's bullpen right now?  Haha.

Fresh topics that come along with winning. 

[Sports Guy]

7 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

We could tender Lopez and do the old Miguel Gonzalez move in ST if he’s not looking good. I believe that move was that we could release him and only be responsible for 25% of the Arb number. 

Why do that? There is no reason to do that.

You offer him a cheaper deal and if he says no, you non tender him and let him go on the open market where he finds out that he isn’t worth what he thinks.

Plus, mentally he likes being here and that should be important to him. Pitch well in 2024 and then you can get a decent multi year deal.

[CaptainRedbeard]

Lopez is very likely to be non-tendered but IMO also likely to be re-signed at a lower salary. He clearly is more comfortable here and has only ever pitched well with this team. He has a shot to be the closer again or at least a 8th inning guy. The Orioles obviously like his arm and could certainly use another RH reliever to pair with Cano and Webb.

I could see a Givens-esque 1 yr & option where he gets a bit more guaranteed and the Orioles have the upside of the option if they do get him back to form. 

[wildcard]

Lopez is a very frustrating pitcher.   I watch his stuff .....velo and movement and think he should be a great reliever.   But he keeps giving up runs.   

[wildcard]

2 hours ago, Frobby said:

I’m in this camp.  I’ll worry about this topic when this season is over.   I’ll say this though - for a team that is going to win 100Ish games, there sure are a lot of issues about how next year’s roster will look.  Elias has a lot to think about and do this winter.   

I for one am capable of thinking about this year's pennant race and next year's team at the same time.   Seems like some can't or don't want to which is fine for  them.  But don't act like things aren't happening now the effect next season.

I posted his thread because  a decision that Elias just made effects next year and I think we should talked about that.   Elias decided to not recall Baumann before his 20 days in the minors which used his last option.   So now Baumann has no option for next year.   And that adds to the number of relievers who do not have options next year.   

That changes the amount of flexibility that the O's have with their current players going into next year. And that could cause Elias to trade or release certain players to have room for players that do  have options.

That is why this thread is here and is prompted by an event that took place on the 11th of September.  We do talk about O's events that are currently happening on this website.   A least those of us that can think about more than one thing at a time.

[Frobby]

45 minutes ago, wildcard said:

I for one am capable of thinking about this year's pennant race and next year's team at the same time.   Seems like some can't or don't want to which is fine for  them.  But don't act like things aren't happening now the effect next season.

I posted his thread because  a decision that Elias just made effects next year and I think we should talked about that.   Elias decided to not recall Baumann before his 20 days in the minors which used his last option.   So now Baumann has no option for next year.   And that adds to the number of relievers who do not have options next year.   

That changes the amount of flexibility that the O's have with their current players going into next year. And that could cause Elias to trade or release certain players to have room for players that do  have options.

That is why this thread is here and is prompted by an event that took place on the 11th of September.  We do talk about O's events that are currently happening on this website.   A least those of us that can think about more than one thing at a time.

No need to be so defensive.  It’s fine with me if you and others want to discuss this now, and I hope my post didn’t suggest otherwise.  I just don’t plan to think about it myself right now.  

[glenn__davis]

10 minutes ago, Frobby said:

No need to be so defensive.  It’s fine with me if you and others want to discuss this now, and I hope my post didn’t suggest otherwise.  I just don’t plan to think about it myself right now.  

I wish I had the bandwidth to keep up with whether or not Mike Baumann used his option for this year and how that might affect next year.  I can barely keep up with who is on the 26-man roster.

Maybe once the kids are in college.

[Sports Guy]

3 hours ago, Frobby said:

I’m in this camp.  I’ll worry about this topic when this season is over.   I’ll say this though - for a team that is going to win 100Ish games, there sure are a lot of issues about how next year’s roster will look.  Elias has a lot to think about and do this winter.   

And for good reason. This team is set to see a lot of player movement over the next 9 months. One of the fascinating questions about this team is how fast do you do this, especially coming off the year they are having.

[wildcard]

5 hours ago, glenn__davis said:

I wish I had the bandwidth to keep up with whether or not Mike Baumann used his option for this year and how that might affect next year.  I can barely keep up with who is on the 26-man roster.

Maybe once the kids are in college.

I remember those years.  But retirement has allowed me to spend more time enjoying the O's.