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9 minutes ago, DrinkinWithFermi said:

He's an interesting buy-low/change-of-scenery guy. Lefty. Once looked like a TOR SP. Multiple years of control. Optionable.

Yeah - I just don't like the fact that he walks a batter every 8ish batters he faces. Seems like he's got control problems and that hasn't played very well in the AL East historically. Hope he outperforms expectations, but this seems like a really big overpay for a #5 starter.

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7 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Do you want to try and fix a guy in August? 

I was viewing him as a bigger factor in the 2025/2026 rotation picture than this year tbh.

But if they send him to Norfolk for August to work on the tweaks and improvements that they doubtlessly have in mind to pay what they did for him, that doesn't hurt the big league pitching and you might be adding another solid arm to the big league staff on September 1st.

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2 minutes ago, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

I'm hoping the bullpen hasn't been finalized yet. 

Yeah that would be pretty negligent not to add there.  I know we can reinforce it with Suarez and McDermott, and hopefully Coulombe will be back in Sept., but we need another guy who could really strike people out.  Leiter Jr. would have fit that criteria but the Yanks got him.  We'll see what Elias has up his sleeve.

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So the O's have given up:

Stowers, Norby, Hays, Horvath, Baumeister, Etzel for

  • 1.5 years of Eflin
  • 2.5 years of Rogers
  • 1.5 years of Dominguez (team option for 25, no minor league options remaining)
  • 3.5 years of Cristian Pache (no minor league options)

I don't mind the O's trading Stowers, Hays, Etzel. I do mind them trading Horvath, Baumeister, and Norby. I like the Eflin trade, although maybe a slight overpay. But Norby not getting anybody better than Rogers is a problem. 

 

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Just now, LookitsPuck said:

So the O's have given up:

Stowers, Norby, Hays, Horvath, Baumeister, Etzel for

  • 1.5 years of Eflin
  • 2.5 years of Rogers
  • 1.5 years of Dominguez (team option for 25, no minor league options remaining)
  • 3.5 years of Cristian Pache (no minor league options)

I don't mind the O's trading Stowers, Hays, Etzel. I do mind them trading Horvath, Baumeister, and Norby. I like the Eflin trade, although maybe a slight overpay. But Norby not getting anybody better than Rogers is a problem. 

 

I think in light of the trades yesterday and today, the Eflin trade looks amazing. JMO. Elias jumped the market on that, and then we see the overpays with Kikuchi and Rogers, etc. 

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12 minutes ago, Just Regular said:

@btdart20will have to rule officially, but I think Norby and Stowers count as top of the deck by now.

I'll allow it but it's a wall-scraper!  😛

We got a #3+in Eflin.  A depth SP with hopeium.  And the darknight Siranthony.  I think there's at least one more move in the tank.  Maybe two.

Was the Norby/Stowers offer to block a competitor?

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3 minutes ago, O's84 said:

Yeah that would be pretty negligent not to add there.  I know we can reinforce it with Suarez and McDermott, and hopefully Coulombe will be back in Sept., but we need another guy who could really strike people out.  Leiter Jr. would have fit that criteria but the Yanks got him.  We'll see what Elias has up his sleeve.

Yeah, especially since the Yankees really didn't give up anything. They get Leiter for 2.5 years, too. 

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9 minutes ago, MDK02 said:

I sure as hell hope not. The BP needs to be addressed badly. Kimbrel cannot be our closer in the playoffs. 

I sure hope you are right, but i think we just traded in Stowers and Norby then highest valued assets that I bet Elias will trade…. Go O’s!

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