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Just now, accinfo said:

Answer the question are the 2021 Oriole players as good as the 2024 players?  That isn’t positive thinking that is just the facts.  They have won 57 games out of 94 so far this year.  They won 52 out of 162 in 2021.  

How many games do the O's have to lose in a row until you admit something needs to be done?  

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Tony-OH
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Holmes clearly is not trying to hit Kjerstad and certainly not in the head. It's raining. Nice to see Hyde's fire though.

Hank Scorpio
Hank Scorpio

God I hate the Yankees with my soul.

Malike
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It doesn't matter that the Yankees have 2 runs, you can't win a game when you score 0, as evidenced by the past two games. They need to hit, you can't shut every team out.

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Just now, Roy Firestone said:

Mayo I believe is still in AAA is because Elias wants to show Mateo and Urias to potential bidders...Urias had some compelling moments tonight...maybe they can trade him for something..

What more would a team need to see?  These guys are known entities.  What team is going to be swayed by some compelling moments?

 

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Just now, oriolediehard said:

How many games do the O's have to lose in a row until you admit something needs to be done?  

They are going to do something. The trade deadline is weeks away and teams are focusing on the draft this weekend.

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Pitching also shouldn’t escape any blame either. They gave up 7 the last game in Seattle, 23 in OAK, were awful against CHC, and have given up 8 BB’s in 9 IP today. As mentioned above, someone needs to show some emotion here. There’s no need to panic as teams go through rough patches but a lot of this just seems mental. 

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      By Grt 2BA FL Gator · Posted

      I would be OK with this and it’s what Hyde was doing with Kimbrel in a way too. We’ve got guys that can match up, let’s try to take advantage. 
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