8/8 vs Toronto

[Emory Eagle]

10 minutes ago, GoldGlove21 said:

So we can have pitching in 3 years? We need to either sign some pitchers or move more minor leagues for proven pitching. This team loses Bradish, Means, Wells and now Rodriguez and people act like ME failed us somehow. How much assurance are teams supposed to have for quality starting pitching? 

That was facetious on my part.  I believe the Angels and maybe the Royals have once done that (draft exclusively college pitching or at least pitchers)… and it was a complete failure.  This organization does need to improve its pitching depth, and I think we are seeing the trade offs of the focus on college bats in historical drafts.

[Gurgi]

Well maybe Elias made the right call not trading for Skubal because does this team feel like a team that is just one guy away from putting us over the top?  Want to bet the farm and have us lay down and die like we did last year?  

We would doubly lose then.  

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

3 minutes ago, eddie83 said:

They were? 
Eovaldi

Montgomery

Heaney?

They also had Gray and Dunning plus Scherzer as a trade deadline pickup. Gray and Dunning last year are better than anything after Burnes and Grayson.

If Grayson can come back they have a chance with Burnes, Grayson and Eflin. This bullpen is shaky at best with no real shutdown guy.

The Grayson injury couldn’t have happened at a worse time. If he can’t comeback this team doesn’t have a chance unless another pitcher steps up. 

[Baseball fandom]

3 minutes ago, gshepherd7 said:

I can’t take it anymore. Preseason football is better than this! 

Yeah no kidding. Lol. Just like the dark days when we would countdown to football.  I think I will take a break tomorrow from these guys and catch the Ravens game tomorrow.

[Gurgi]

1 minute ago, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

They also had Gray and Dunning plus Scherzer as a trade deadline pickup. Gray and Dunning last year are better than anything after Burnes and Grayson.

If Grayson can come back they have a chance with Burnes, Grayson and Eflin. This bullpen is shaky at best with no real shutdown guy.

The Grayson injury couldn’t have happened at a worse time. If he can’t comeback this team doesn’t have a chance unless another pitcher steps up. 

Povich and whatever his named really laid a stick egg when they got their chance to pitch in the majors.  

[eddie83]

Just now, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

They also had Gray and Dunning plus Scherzer as a trade deadline pickup. Gray and Dunning last year are better than anything after Burnes and Grayson.

If Grayson can come back they have a chance with Burnes, Grayson and Eflin. This bullpen is shaky at best with no real shutdown guy.

The Grayson injury couldn’t have happened at a worse time. If he can’t comeback this team doesn’t have a chance unless another pitcher steps up. 

Max wasn’t himself and the other 2 made a combined one start. 
 

It is a huge injury. Not saying that. 

[gshepherd7]

2 minutes ago, Emory Eagle said:

That was facetious on my part.  I believe the Angels and maybe the Royals have once done that (draft exclusively college pitching or at least pitchers)… and it was a complete failure.  This organization does need to improve its pitching depth, and I think we are seeing the trade offs of the focus on college bats in historical drafts.

The plan has to be to buy the arms otherwise the draft strategy is a failure. I love the strategy and this offseason is the time to start buying the arms. New management in place we shall see what happens. They’re not paying anything for the lineup and won’t have to for a few seasons. 

[HowAboutThat]

6 minutes ago, eddie83 said:

Why change a strategy that works? 
 

KC and DET drafted a bunch, how did that work for them! 

Does it work? We have lots of problems right now, but lack of pitching is chief among them. We have zero pitching depth, the guys on the 26 are…well, you can see how they are.

If you draft pitchers, they may fail, but if you don’t draft pitchers, you won’t have pitching.

And that’s where we are.

[LGOrioles]

1 minute ago, Moose Milligan said:

But the offense since the ASB!!!

First 2 games in Texas: 17 runs

Next 3 games: 8 runs 

Next game: 7 runs against Miami

Next 2 games against SD: 4 runs first game (2 runs first 7 innings against a spot starter with a 7.50 ERA followed by 2 MILB relievers). Then 4 runs again but were shutout through 6 then put up 4 runs when they were already down 8-0)

Next 5 games: 39 runs (genuinely great)

Next 2 games against CLE: 7 runs, 9 hits today 

Next 2 games against CLE: 16 runs 

First game in TOR: 2 runs, 3 hits

2nd game in TOR: 7 runs

Tonight: 2 runs, 3 hits 

 

The pitching is the main issue but the offense being so inconsistent isn’t helping. Performances like the one in game 2 against both SD and CLE look fine because they scored 4 runs, but they scored those runs off their low leverage relievers when they were getting blown out. 

[Baseball fandom]

1 minute ago, gshepherd7 said:

The plan has to be to buy the arms otherwise the draft strategy is a failure. I love the strategy and this offseason is the time to start buying the arms. New management in place we shall see what happens. They’re not paying anything for the lineup and won’t have to for a few seasons

 

[eddie83]

Just now, HowAboutThat said:

Does it work? We have lots of problems right now, but lack of pitching is chief among them. We have zero pitching depth, the guys on the 26 are…well, you can see how they are.

If you draft pitchers, they may fail, but if you don’t draft pitchers, you won’t have pitching.

And that’s where we are.

That’s simply not accurate. You can trade for it or sign it. Did that with Bradish and Burnes. They have hit on their top position player picks. Tremendous risk drafting arms. 
 

They have had a ton of injuries this year. 

[Emory Eagle]

Just now, gshepherd7 said:

The plan has to be to buy the arms otherwise the draft strategy is a failure. I love the strategy and this offseason is the time to start buying the arms. New management in place we shall see what happens. They’re not paying anything for the lineup and won’t have to for a few seasons. 

I agree.  Important year for a signal from the new ownership group on spending on the roster.  In addition to the upgrades to Camden Yards, which I’m sure won’t be cheap (but of course will be partially subsidized by the state).

[Gurgi]

Any one think Adley has to be slightly injured because he has sucked for two months?

[LGOrioles]

7 minutes ago, Gurgi said:

Don't show me these stats.  I already am feeling down.

To make you feel better, a team probably isn’t going to be all that much better when their 2 best players are hardly replacement level combined over a month period. They’ll instantly see improvement just from Gunnar and Adley getting back to form. 

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

1 minute ago, eddie83 said:

Max wasn’t himself and the other 2 made a combined one start. 
 

It is a huge injury. Not saying that. 

Scherzer only hsd 8 starts, but he had a 0.956 WHIP and 3.20 ERA. Kremer and Rogers aren’t going to give the Orioles that level of pitching the next two months.

Maybe a starter will step up, but the rotation is dangerously thin for a team with postseason aspirations with Grayson out.