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Moose Milligan Hangout Grand Counsel

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20 minutes ago, deward said:

We didn't have good pitching because we didn't have good pitchers. OPCY never mattered. New Yankee Stadium is a bandbox, yet the Yankees pitchers seem to survive just fine.

So if Camden Yards never mattered, it never mattered.  The Wall is fine, then.

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I don't know how it possibly couldn't impact our right handed hitters' approach. They have to look at that stupid wall 81 games a year.  You can only hear "it would have been a homerun in 28 other bal

Aristotelian
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I don't know of anywhere that has exactly what you are looking for. Statcast will tell you for every ball hit how many parks it would have gone out of, but I don't know how you could easily translate

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The wall was yet another case, in the case of many’s. Where Elias thought he was smarter than everybody  and decided to make hitting homers to left field almost impossible and so in his “genius”he onl

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54 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Maybe. But the Os offense has been one of the best in the league anyway. They may be better but how much better would they be?  
 

The pitching would undoubtedly be worse.  We aren’t throwing a lot of elite guys up there.

They won't get even less elite based on the dimensions. Dean Kremer giving up five more home runs a year because the LF wall is closer doesn't mean he suddenly becomes a worse pitcher. Him out-dueling Nestor Cortes in a 5-4 win is the same as him doing it in a 4-3 win. It doesn't make any intuitive sense to me that park effects wouldn't have an ultimately neutral impact on both home and visiting pitching staffs.

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1 minute ago, Moose Milligan said:

So if Camden Yards never mattered, it never mattered.  The Wall is fine, then.

It becomes an aesthetic question then, both in terms of visuals and style of play. That'll be a matter of taste for everyone, of course.

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3 minutes ago, deward said:

They won't get even less elite based on the dimensions. Dean Kremer giving up five more home runs a year because the LF wall is closer doesn't mean he suddenly becomes a worse pitcher. Him out-dueling Nestor Cortes in a 5-4 win is the same as him doing it in a 4-3 win. It doesn't make any intuitive sense to me that park effects wouldn't have an ultimately neutral impact on both home and visiting pitching staffs.

I disagree and the mental aspect of things matters here. The Os pitching is better because of that wall. They are largely a fly ball staff.

Sure, maybe we score more runs…maybe but we undoubtedly give up a lot more runs.

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25 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

I disagree and the mental aspect of things matters here. The Os pitching is better because of that wall. They are largely a fly ball staff.

Sure, maybe we score more runs…maybe but we undoubtedly give up a lot more runs.

What about the mental aspect of the hitters?

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