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Mychal Givens: An O or No?


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Tony, are you getting any indications at this point as to whether there's still a chance that Givens may sign? It's kind of strange but, even though I'd be okay with 2 second round picks next year, there would be a certain finality or sense of closure if Givens were to sign. It would make the 2009 draft seem truly complete and successful. I would still consider it a success even if he doesn't sign, but I'm still hoping that he has a change of heart, lowers his demands, and signs at the last minute, a la Matt Wieters.

For some reason, without knowing Givens, I just have this feeling that he really wants to start his pro career rather than wait 3 more years and has been following his agent's lead up to this point. Kind of the same way Wieters did, where he put his trust in Boras to get him the best deal he could while also directing him that he wanted to sign and not go back to school. Is it possible that Givens told his agent he wants to sign and keep the heat on the Orioles until the last possible minute, hoping they up the offer?

All I know is, if the O's say they pulled their offer to Givens but word is they are still negotiating, I take that as a good sign. After all, if they were willing to give Cameron Coffey $990,000 to sign coming of TJ surgery and calling him a second round talent, I would have to imagine they value Givens similarly considering he was seen as a 1st round talent by many and they took him at the top of the 2nd round. If they expected him to sign for any less than what they gave Coffey, or at least the $900,000 they gave Xavier Avery last year as a 2nd rounder, I think they are misguided.

Ultimately, I hope Givens realizes that there's no guarantee he ever sees that amount of money presented to him again and signs on the dotted line. So many things can happen in 3 years that, unless he truly just wants to go to college, it's risky to pass up $900,000+, even if it's less than what he thought he was going to get or what his agents are telling him he's worth.

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I guess I'll just reply to my own post by saying it's nice to see the O's get Givens in the fold. I just had a feeling he wanted to go pro rather than play at Oklahoma State for the next 3 years, and that obviously was the case. I guess he must have told his agent to get him the best deal possible but that ultimately he wanted to sign, even if it went down to the final minutes before the deadline.

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He could have gone to State as far as I care.

He's just another one in the Hoes, Avery, Darnell McDonald mold.

Good. When you draft some raw athletes, you need to buy in bulk in order to get one who will produce near the ceiling.

Draft enough and you'll find another Adam Jones.

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He could have gone to State as far as I care.

He's just another one in the Hoes, Avery, Darnell McDonald mold.

Hoes and Avery both are good prospects for us, but Givens is a bit different IMO. He is in the mold of possibly Alcides Escobar or Elvis Andrus IMO. Not projected to have a ton of pop, but good speed, good glove and hopefully good bat.

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Hoes and Avery both are good prospects for us, but Givens is a bit different IMO. He is in the mold of possibly Alcides Escobar or Elvis Andrus IMO. Not projected to have a ton of pop, but good speed, good glove and hopefully good bat.

I'd temper your enthusiasm before making that comparison, Escobar and Andrus are two of the top SS prospects in the game, Givens has a couple years to catch up to their time in the minors, then you can compare the three.

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I'd temper your enthusiasm before making that comparison, Escobar and Andrus are two of the top SS prospects in the game, Givens has a couple years to catch up to their time in the minors, then you can compare the three.

Yes, and Given's learning curve should follow their career paths even though Andrus was already close to the ML at the age of 19. But Escobar and Andrus is the type of player that JJ and AM hope they have with Givens. And to make a comparison, that doesnt mean that Im saying Givens is going to or is as good as Andrus or Escobar, it is merely a comparison, similar to when folks compare Avery to Crawford.

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