Time to trade Felix Pie

[Frobby]

I don't know where Roch comes off saying Pie was atrocious in LF, unless he just stopped watching after mid-April or so. It is true that Pie had a rocky start out there, but he played the position quite well as the season progressed, and certainly better than Reimold did.

[TyCobb]

I'm not sure what we could get that we really need for someone who we project to be a 4th OF for 2010. A hotshot 3b or SS prospect?

And if thats the case, why would some GM be willing to so quickly part with something that has more value than an outfielder?

I agree you're right it depends on who we get back, but I just don't see us getting someone who can bring to the table what Pie can do right now...and what he has the potential to become.

IMO, there is no way DT gives Pie the playing time to even come close to adding a lot of value to this team.

Unless Jones, Markakis or Reimold get hurt both Pie will be getting only spot starts all year long.

[Sports Guy]

According to Roch's newest post

http://masnsports.com/2009/12/the-outfield-and-more-on-steve.html

Felix has no real role on this team outside of CF or fourth outfielder.

the team views Jones as the CF of the present and future and Pie was atrocious in left and not a significant upgrade over Riemold.

Given that I think we need to trade Felix, he is too good to be a fourth outfielder and Lou Montanez can do that just as effectively. If Felix is good enough to be a starter somewhere in the league, what could we get for him?

Is this a joke?

[Old#5fan]

It'd be stupid to trade him.

Did an earthquake or a celestial event just now occur as I actually agree with something you posted! :clap3:

[Sports Guy]

If Scott stays and we do not sign another first baseman, I have to hope that DT and AM are smart enough to get Pie in LF against righties and select lefties, while DH'ing Reimold and starting Scott at first.

That is obviously what is best for the team, trade values and the future.

[Moose Milligan]

IMO, there is no way DT gives Pie the playing time to even come close to adding a lot of value to this team.

Why do you think this?

Understand that I really like Reimold as well. But if DT values defense as much as we like to whine about on here, he'll find a way to get Pie in the lineup.

[SilentJames]

Is this a joke?

Listen I am just repeating what was said - and if the Orioles feel this way that Pie has no real shot at being a starter on the team then maybe it is time to move him for significant piece(s).

[jcumansky28]

History may be bunk, but the best Orioles teams have had four quality outfielders:

1969-70:

F. Robinson

Blair

Buford

Rettenmund

1979-83:

Singleton

Bumbry

Lowenstein

Roenicke

I'm all for hanging on to Pie.

[Moose Milligan]

Did an earthquake or a celestial event just now occur as I actually agree with something you posted! :clap3:

Even the sun shines on a dogs ass every once in awhile. I guess I'm that dog today.

[Sports Guy]

How can Roch cite the fangraphs article and then make those statements about Pie?

You either believe what the article says or you don't.

[Sports Guy]

BTW, I would be out there shopping a package with these guys(not all but some or most of them in one package):

JJ

Pie

Britton

Guthrie

Scott

Snyder

Trading those guys may be able to get you a significant player that can be around for 3+ years.

[TyCobb]

Why do you think this?

Understand that I really like Reimold as well. But if DT values defense as much as we like to whine about on here, he'll find a way to get Pie in the lineup.

DT has terrible roster management, IMO.

He is probably going to plug Reimold in LF, Jones in CF, Markakis in RF, and Scott at DH. Day in/day out. Scott is the only one in that group that is probably going to get a significant about of days off.

I am in the minority on this board, but I don't think Reimold is going to be a below average fielder. I actually think it is the opposite. I think he is going to be an above average fielding LF. He is very fast and has a strong arm. Giving the time, I think he is going to shock a lot of people with his fielding ability.

[Old#5fan]

DT has terrible roster management, IMO.

He is probably going to plug Reimold in LF, Jones in CF, Markakis in RF, and Scott at DH. Day in/day out. Scott is the only one in that group that is probably going to get a significant about of days off.

I am in the minority on this board, but I don't think Reimold is going to be a below average fielder. I actually think it is the opposite. I think he is going to be an above average fielding LF. He is very fast and has a strong arm. Giving the time, I think he is going to shock a lot of people with his fielding ability.

Pie actually was only terrible in LF at first. After he played there a while he was superb. He actually made a heck of a game winning diving catch out there to save a game I recall. I do agree with you though that Reimold isn't as bad as some make him seem. He's actually about as good as Scott with a stronger arm.

[Lucky Jim]

Pie actually was only terrible in LF at first. After he played there a while he was superb. He actually made a heck of a game winning diving catch out there to save a game I recall. I do agree with you though that Reimold isn't as bad as some make him seem. He's actually about as good as Scott with a stronger arm.

He was Curt Blefary-like!

[Hooded Viper]

I think Roch has a good pulse on the organization and a decent sense of humor but I find him lacking on his player analysis. So it doesn't surprise me when he downplays Pie's defensive ability in LF.