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Kevin Lomax Major Leaguer Cup of Coffee

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The thing is Macphail is talking constantly with Showalter and knows what is going on.

So to him he is moving along at a good pace,and it is probably the same for Showalter.

But to us the fans the process seems like it is being drawn out,we have no idea what is going on, so we think nothing is going on and that he is taking to long.

It is like when you were a kid and on a family trip in the car and the kid in the back seat keeps asking,

are we there yet?

And dad who knows how long the trip is going to take just says,

not yet.

And then 5 minutes latet the kid says,

are we there yet?

and dad says again,

not yet

And this goes on and on and on.

Nicely put.

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The thing is Macphail is talking constantly with Showalter and knows what is going on.

So to him he is moving along at a good pace,and it is probably the same for Showalter.

But to us the fans the process seems like it is being drawn out,we have no idea what is going on, so we think nothing is going on and that he is taking to long.

It is like when you were a kid and on a family trip in the car and the kid in the back seat keeps asking,

are we there yet?

And dad who knows how long the trip is going to take just says,

not yet.

And then 5 minutes latet the kid says,

are we there yet?

and dad says again,

not yet

And this goes on and on and on.

I hear what you, and to a lesser extent, Lomax, are saying.

The problem I have with this whole process is that this was the time when a bold, decisive move needs to be made. It's quite obvious that Showalter and the O's have interest in each other.

Make the bold move and make a quick, decisive move. We are TIRED OF WAITING.

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I'd love for this to be explained:

Why would any chance of well-played or poorly-played baseball have anything to do with putting the new manager in place?? :scratchchinhmm:

Whole article HERE.

Yeah... I would have to agree with you.. The play of the team under Samuel shouldn't play a role in timing or anything else unless you are seriously considering Samuel...

Tho, I am always a little leery of "sources".

I also think it is a bit ridiculous that the upcoming trade deadline is somehow playing into the timing. I mean really wouldn't you prefer to have the manager of the future in on that type of thing?

Oh well.. As the O's turn.

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I hear what you, and to a lesser extent, Lomax, are saying.

The problem I have with this whole process is that this was the time when a bold, decisive move needs to be made. It's quite obvious that Showalter and the O's have interest in each other.

Make the bold move and make a quick, decisive move. We are TIRED OF WAITING.

Thanks, I guess.

I think one thing we are also discounting is that we are not your average O's fan. We are far more die hard than most.

I think a Bold Move does more for the casual O's fan. You know the ones who will start coming back to OPACY once we start winning.

I would rather smart, solid moves be made than quick bold ones. (note: in no way am I defending or railing against any AM move with that statement. I'm just saying, in general.)

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Can someone explain the importance of "the guys responding well to Samuel" having any importance in the process of hiring a manager?

That was the biggest thing that jumped out to me.

It's like MacPhail is saying "I'll wait on buying the 2010 Lexus I want and have the money to buy today because the 1995 Hyundai my brother let me borrow when my old car broke down still runs. Even though that Lexus won't be there forever".

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Yeah... I would have to agree with you.. The play of the team under Samuel shouldn't play a role in timing or anything else unless you are seriously considering Samuel...

Tho, I am always a little leery of "sources".

I also think it is a bit ridiculous that the upcoming trade deadline is somehow playing into the timing. I mean really wouldn't you prefer to have the manager of the future in on that type of thing?

Oh well.. As the O's turn.

Who's to say he isn't?

Another thing that hasn't been factored in is what AM has said about this being a weird topic for him to discuss with Samuel still in the dugout trying to bring the most out of his team.

And a response will be: Than just sign him already and lose Samuel.

And my response will be: It may not be that simple. Maybe Buck promised his wife he'd take her to Spain before he took his next manager job and he needs to do that first.

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Thanks, I guess.

I think one thing we are also discounting is that we are not your average O's fan. We are far more die hard than most.

I think a Bold Move does more for the casual O's fan. You know the ones who will start coming back to OPACY once we start winning.

I would rather smart, solid moves be made than quick bold ones. (note: in no way am I defending or railing against any AM move with that statement. I'm just saying, in general.)

Again, I understand what you are saying...I certainly can see why waiting another few days or weeks likely doesn't make a difference for this season. I've got that...

Hiring Andy MacPhail was a big move from Angelos. That move kind of came out of nowhere. I'm not against what MacPhail is doing...yet.

The point is that Showalter seems to be the perfect fit for a team that hasn't found a perfect fit anywhere for 13 years. He may flop...he may succeed. A lot of that will depend on what AM does over the next 9 months. Get this deal done and move on to giving BS the players he needs/wants to make this team a winner.

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Can someone explain the importance of "the guys responding well to Samuel" having any importance in the process of hiring a manager?

That was the biggest thing that jumped out to me.

It's like MacPhail is saying "I'll wait on buying the 2010 Lexus I want and have the money to buy today because the 1995 Hyundai my brother let me borrow when my old car broke down still runs. Even though that Lexus won't be there forever".

I think that is the reporters opinion.

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I think that is the reporters opinion.

Nope. From AM himself.

“It’s not dragging,” said MacPhail, almost incredulous that the process is being questioned by fans and reporters. “Again, there is no timetable here. It’s not like the barn is on fire right now. The players are doing a nice job for Juan. I just think that kind of [talk] is just wrong.”
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Who's to say he isn't?

Another thing that hasn't been factored in is what AM has said about this being a weird topic for him to discuss with Samuel still in the dugout trying to bring the most out of his team.

And a response will be: Than just sign him already and lose Samuel.

And my response will be: It may not be that simple. Maybe Buck promised his wife he'd take her to Spain before he took his next manager job and he needs to do that first.

Well right.. but isn't there something to be said about consulting with someone you haven't yet reached agreement with on potential future moves? Especially when in the next breath you are saying you may still interview other candidates.

Your point about maybe this is all Buck's timeframe is a good one. Maybe he has reasons for waiting to make a decision or even announcing the decision.

Bottom line is we don't know whats going on really. Ultimately I don't necessarily care about the time frame, I prefer they make the right decision.

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Well right.. but isn't there something to be said about consulting with someone you haven't yet reached agreement with on potential future moves? Especially when in the next breath you are saying you may still interview other candidates.

Your point about maybe this is all Buck's timeframe is a good one. Maybe he has reasons for waiting to make a decision or even announcing the decision.

Bottom line is we don't know whats going on really. Ultimately I don't necessarily care about the time frame, I prefer they make the right decision.

If this was the name of a boat...I would be in it...with you.

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I hear what you, and to a lesser extent, Lomax, are saying.

The problem I have with this whole process is that this was the time when a bold, decisive move needs to be made. It's quite obvious that Showalter and the O's have interest in each other.

Make the bold move and make a quick, decisive move. We are TIRED OF WAITING.

But it's not up to us.

I don't get the angst, here. WHO CARES how long it takes?

Maybe Showalter doesn't want to take over until Roberts and others are back. Maybe Showalter doesn't want to jump into this today.

We just don't know the reasons behind what's going on.

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But it's not up to us.

I don't get the angst, here. WHO CARES how long it takes?

Maybe Showalter doesn't want to take over until Roberts and others are back. Maybe Showalter doesn't want to jump into this today.

We just don't know the reasons behind what's going on.

Exactly!!! Tho if Showalter doesn't want to take over until the other guys get back then I would question whether or not Showalter is the right guy here. But honestly I don't believe that to be the case...

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But it's not up to us.

I don't get the angst, here. WHO CARES how long it takes?

Maybe Showalter doesn't want to take over until Roberts and others are back. Maybe Showalter doesn't want to jump into this today.

We just don't know the reasons behind what's going on.

Why would Roberts and other injured players have anything to do with this? What if Roberts doesn't come back?

Buck knows what situation he's walking into. If Roberts, Scott, etc. are not back, people are going to realize it.

You could be right...who knows what the reasoning is. It is the Orioles, however, and they tend to know how to screw stuff like this up.

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