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We need Prince Fielder as much as any team needs a single player!


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I think the Orioles wasted a golden opportunity to operate in the $55M realm and spend $30M on signing, drafting, and developing the best talent by any means. That being said, I think a team like the Orioles should operate in the same price range as the Chicago Cubs. The Orioles should be able to afford a team in excess of $100M. Considering how much young talent we have run out there this year it boggles my mond how we have invested almost $35M on Lee, Guerrero, Gregg, Gonzalez, Uehara, and Scott. NON of those players are likely to help us become contenders in the next 2-3 years.

I concur with your comments. We should invest in younger players through the draft and development cycle.

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I concur with your comments. We should invest in younger players through the draft and development cycle.

Well we are investing in young players. My point was tied to the Orioles spending a lot of money on mediocre or outside of their prime players and pass on legit stars in many cases. If they keep thinking that someone is going to call and want to be an Oriole then they have lost it. Either go all in and spend some money to add good parts around around Wieters, Markakis, Jones, Reynolds, Hardy, Britton, Matusz, and Arrieta or deal guys like Uehara, Guthrie, Scott, Lee, Guerrero, Gregg and Gonzalez for whatever you can get for them.

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At this point I think the Nationals could have a real good shot to land him. Part of me kind of wishes I was a Nats fan as they have a lot going for them and they seem to have a decent handle on how to go about doing it. Would I have signed Werth? No, but they did so they could show other teams and players that they were for real. I really think that Carlos Pena ends up the Orioles first baseman in 2012.

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Would Prince Fielder be willing to take a non-hometown discount or the 4th highest offer after 3 have already been submitted? Would he accept a buy 4 free agent years get 2 for free coupon MacPhail is busy creating on Microsoft Paint right now (Photoshop is too expensive for his tastes).

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Would Prince Fielder be willing to take a non-hometown discount or the 4th highest offer after 3 have already been submitted? Would he accept a buy 4 free agent years get 2 for free coupon MacPhail is busy creating on Microsoft Paint right now (Photoshop is too expensive for his tastes).

"Orioles make a strong run at Fielder, but he eventually signs with the Angels. The Angels actually offered slightly less money than the Orioles on an annual basis, but the Angels included the 7th year and offered Fielder an opportunity to be close to family. Said Andy MacPhail, "We made a strong initial offer and urged them to come back with a counter offer. We never received a counter offer from his representative.""

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