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Mr Snuffleupagus Major Leaguer Cup of Coffee

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[table=width: 200]

[tr]

[td]Player[/td]

[td]Runs[/td]

[td]HR[/td]

[td]RBI[/td]

[td]KO[/td]

[td]BA[/td]

[td]OBP[/td]

[td]SLG[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]Chris Davis[/td]

[td]13[/td]

[td]5[/td]

[td]13[/td]

[td]20[/td]

[td].316[/td]

[td].368[/td]

[td].595[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]Prince Fielder[/td]

[td]14[/td]

[td]3[/td]

[td]12[/td]

[td]16[/td]

[td].281[/td]

[td].363[/td]

[td].405[/td]

[/tr]

[/table]

Chris Davis 2012 Salary = $488,000

Prince Fielder 2012 Salary = $23,000,000... or rougly 26x as much as Chris Davis

So for those who wondered what it would be like to have Prince in the lineup, now you know. :D

SSS (25 games), but we'll see how this looks come years end.

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Conway12 Major Leaguer Cup of Coffee

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[table=width: 200]

[tr]

[td]Player[/td]

[td]Runs[/td]

[td]HR[/td]

[td]RBI[/td]

[td]KO[/td]

[td]BA[/td]

[td]OBP[/td]

[td]SLG[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]Chris Davis[/td]

[td]13[/td]

[td]5[/td]

[td]13[/td]

[td]20[/td]

[td].316[/td]

[td].368[/td]

[td].595[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]Prince Fielder[/td]

[td]14[/td]

[td]3[/td]

[td]12[/td]

[td]16[/td]

[td].281[/td]

[td].363[/td]

[td].405[/td]

[/tr]

[/table]

Chris Davis 2012 Salary = $488,000

Prince Fielder 2012 Salary = $23,000,000... or rougly 26x as much as Chris Davis

So for those who wondered what it would be like to have Prince in the lineup, now you know. :D

SSS (25 games), but we'll see how this looks come years end.

Yeah, but look at how similar their OBP are compared to much higher Davis' BA is than Prince's. That has been, and seems that it will always be, Davis' problem...

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[table=width: 200]

[tr]

[td]Player[/td]

[td]Runs[/td]

[td]HR[/td]

[td]RBI[/td]

[td]KO[/td]

[td]BA[/td]

[td]OBP[/td]

[td]SLG[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]Chris Davis[/td]

[td]13[/td]

[td]5[/td]

[td]13[/td]

[td]20[/td]

[td].316[/td]

[td].368[/td]

[td].595[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]Prince Fielder[/td]

[td]14[/td]

[td]3[/td]

[td]12[/td]

[td]16[/td]

[td].281[/td]

[td].363[/td]

[td].405[/td]

[/tr]

[/table]

Chris Davis 2012 Salary = $488,000

Prince Fielder 2012 Salary = $23,000,000... or rougly 26x as much as Chris Davis

So for those who wondered what it would be like to have Prince in the lineup, now you know. :D

SSS (25 games), but we'll see how this looks come years end.

I've heard that late in life Machiavelli was consumed by his work on a revolutionary treatise tentatively titled The Deputy, which was to obsolesce his previous work.

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Yeah, but look at how similar their OBP are compared to much higher Davis' BA is than Prince's. That has been, and seems that it will always be, Davis' problem...

Well, OBP 50pts higher then BA isn't exactly JJ Hardy bad, but I see what you're saying. That said, .363 is a very respectable OBP. I don't expect CD's stats to hang with PF all season, but he's starting to look like a real solution, and undoubtedly a bargain.

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Yeah, but look at how similar their OBP are compared to much higher Davis' BA is than Prince's. That has been, and seems that it will always be, Davis' problem...

I'm not sure I buy the need for Davis to draw walks. The power-hitting 1Bs job is not to get on base, imo. It's to drive-in runs. It'd be great if he were more patient (which he'll learn to be over time), but he's not one of the 3-4 players needing to jack-up their OBP numbers.

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I'm not sure I buy the need for Davis to draw walks. The power-hitting 1Bs job is not to get on base, imo. It's to drive-in runs. It'd be great if he were more patient (which he'll learn to be over time), but he's not one of the 3-4 players needing to jack-up their OBP numbers.

OBP or more importantly out prevention is vital no matter what position a player plays. I think it is not a bad thing that the OBP is driven by BA per se. However BA driven OBP tends to be more volatile. In Chris's case, when he was putting up huge numbers in the minors he was a high BA guy so there is hope that he can continue to be a decent OBP guy, driven by BA.

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OBP or more importantly out prevention is vital no matter what position a player plays. I think it is not a bad thing that the OBP is driven by BA per se. However BA driven OBP tends to be more volatile. In Chris's case, when he was putting up huge numbers in the minors he was a high BA guy so there is hope that he can continue to be a decent OBP guy, driven by BA.

Volatility aside, I would think a BA driven OBP is more productive than a BB driven OBP. A lot of people like the walks, as they show a discerning eye and patience, but I'll take the high BA every time.

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OBP or more importantly out prevention is vital no matter what position a player plays. I think it is not a bad thing that the OBP is driven by BA per se. However BA driven OBP tends to be more volatile. In Chris's case, when he was putting up huge numbers in the minors he was a high BA guy so there is hope that he can continue to be a decent OBP guy, driven by BA.

Yeah for sure. I just don't see him needing to be a .370-.380 OBP kinda guy annually. FWIW, he's already drawn one more walk (7) this season than he did last year (around 40 fewer at bats).

He definitely needs to be more patient. But I think that'll come. Even from last year to this year he's shown more patience.

I guess it comes down to this. Who would you rather prefer:

Adam Dunn: .247 avg, .385 obp, .562 slg

Chris Davis: .316 avg, .368 obp, .595 slg

Personally, I'd rather have Davis' numbers. But as you said about volatility, it's probably unlikely he'll be hitting around a .315 clip for the rest of the season. But even if a dip to .270-.280 brings his OBP down to .320-.330, I'd still be okay with that as long as he's driving-in runs.

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Volatility aside, I would think a BA driven OBP is more productive than a BB driven OBP. A lot of people like the walks, as they show a discerning eye and patience, but I'll take the high BA every time.

Agreed. I'll take it for the simple reason that a walk is a constant: one extra base per runner. A hit obviously ensures at least one base per runner, but could be as much as 4.

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Davis' minor league career numbers - .318 BA and .375 OPB - hopefully indicate his current pace could be sustainable. And his power is legitimate - in his 5 full professional seasons (minors and majors) he has averaged 30 HR's per season.

I think the Orioles have landed a winner.

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I'm not sure I buy the need for Davis to draw walks. The power-hitting 1Bs job is not to get on base, imo. It's to drive-in runs. It'd be great if he were more patient (which he'll learn to be over time), but he's not one of the 3-4 players needing to jack-up their OBP numbers.

Everyone's job is to get on base. Unless Davis has some kind of bizarre skill set that makes him lose all power when getting on base at an acceptable clip he's going to be among the 99.9% of baseball players who are more valuable getting on base.

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Davis' minor league career numbers - .318 BA and .375 OPB - hopefully indicate his current pace could be sustainable. And his power is legitimate - in his 5 full professional seasons (minors and majors) he has averaged 30 HR's per season.

I think the Orioles have landed a winner.

I hope so, but you just don't see many players with 3:1 or 4:1 K/BB ratios who hit .315. In fact, there are just 17 in MLB history who qualified for the batting title. And all but six of those had the advantage of being fast enough to steal 20+ bases.

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