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jabba72 Hangout Veteran Council

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Schoop must hit some long HR's in BP for Buck to keep playing him every night. I honestly dont know what else is impressive about him. Fast bat, but he's not ML ready. Flaherty can get on base and play 2B better than Schoop can right now.

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CA-ORIOLE Hangout Grand Counsel

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I think I'd just platoon Schoop and Flaherty and hope someone starts hitting.

I don't see that happening. Besides Schoop not hitting LHP very well and likely not providing any relative advantage in that scenario, the stated goal has clearly been to develop Schoop as a full time player. That'll be done at the MLB level or the minor league level imo. I don't think there will be an in between position with Schoop.

Absent upgrading second base with a full time player via trade (or waiting for Schoop to get better), an intermediate solution would be a viable platoon option with Flaherty (trade or in-house). Since Buck won't go for Week's defense, the only viable in-house option would appear to be Dejesus (imo).

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Yeah, but all those guys who ALSO looked bad facing Kuroda get a bigger pass because they've all hit or hit with power. Flaherty is only hit..or miss.

If Chase Utley would come to his senses and realize the Phillies suck, accept a trade to the O's then we could just put all this Flaherty vs Schoop to bed for a while and let Schoop get some more seasoning in the minors.

Course know Amaro that clown would ask for Bundy, Harvey or KG for him lol which would be a no go.

He would look good in this lineup though...... What realistically do people think the Phillies would want for him

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So who is the answer? Who is available or in the minors who's going to play as good or better defense, put up better offensive stats AND who won't cost us the farm to acquire?

Uhhhhhh, I am just a fan. I have don't have to know those answers. But us not having a 2nd baseman for at least the last 3 years has been ridiculous

Again - Just my humble opinion

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Uhhhhhh, I am just a fan. I have don't have to know those answers. But us not having a 2nd baseman for at least the last 3 years has been ridiculous

Again - Just my humble opinion

How about Rickie Weeks, Darwin Barney, Jedd Gyorko, Danny Espinosa, Erik Sogard, Dan Uggla, Aaron Hill, or Gordon Beckham? List of players who are producing about the same or worse then our current 2nd basemen.

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Can't the same be said about Flaherty and Flaherty has twice as many big league ab's as Schoop.

Flaherty has a respectable walk rate. Besides, one bad night from Flaherty is not the same as one bad month from Schoop. What you saw tonight from Flaherty is what you see every night from Schoop, at least the majority of nights.

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How about Rickie Weeks, Darwin Barney, Jedd Gyorko, Danny Espinosa, Erik Sogard, Dan Uggla, Aaron Hill, or Gordon Beckham? List of players who are producing about the same or worse then our current 2nd basemen.

The only way it makes sense to go and trade for a guy is if they are a clear upgrade IMO.

Otherwise your just giving up talent for marginal production increase if any at all.

It would be different if Schoop and Flaherty were struggling defensively. I am all for an upgrade but like I said I do not see how getting player X who is slightly better offensively helps when you take into consideration tthings like team chemistry and potentially messing up a pretty solid DP combo

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Flaherty has a respectable walk rate. Besides, one bad night from Flaherty is not the same as one bad month from Schoop.

Flaherty should have a better walk rate. He's 5 years older then Schoop and this is his 3rd full year in the majors.

What you saw tonight from Flaherty is what you see every night from Schoop, at least the majority of nights.

It's moronic posts like this that just irritate the living **** out of me!

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=flahery01&year=2014&t=b

So Flaherty's April[TABLE=class: sortable stats_table]

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[TD=align: right].188[/TD]

[TD=align: right].268[/TD]

[TD=align: right].234[/TD]

[TD=align: right].502[/TD]

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and June

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[TD=align: right].207[/TD]

[TD=align: right].233[/TD]

[TD=align: right].414[/TD]

[TD=align: right].647

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</tbody>[/TABLE]

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