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There were also indications the Pirates discussed a potential trade with the Orioles on Tuesday for lefty Brian Matusz in which outfielder Travis Snider would be shipped to Baltimore. Matusz has two years of club control remaining.

http://www.timesonline.com/sports/pirates/huntington-doesn-t-expect-major-moves-for-pirates-rest-of/article_7526f0f6-7fe4-11e4-b81c-9f6abaece980.html

Would very much like this move.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>So if the Orioles got Travis Snider for Matusz, they'd essentially be getting a 26 year old version of Nick Markakis, for 1/10th the price</p>— Dave Tucker (@TestudoDave) <a href="

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I would happily make that move.

So would I be is he even a starter?

Love how he "blasted" 13 home runs:)...

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2289925-why-the-pittsburgh-pirates-should-consider-trading-outfielder-travis-snider?utm_campaign=tsiphone&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=twitter.com?is_shared=true

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Except for the price part that seems to be hopelessly optimistic. Snider has been in the league for parts of six seasons, 500+ games, and 1700 plate appearances, and his entire career is only slightly more valuable than Markakis' 2014.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>So if the Orioles got Travis Snider for Matusz, they'd essentially be getting a 26 year old version of Nick Markakis, for 1/10th the price</p>— Dave Tucker (@TestudoDave) <a href="
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I don't know if I'd go that far. Snider's 2014 was comparable to Nick's 2014. It was also Snider's best season in the Majors by a significant margin. Maybe at 26, Snider is finally coming into his own. It's not unreasonable to think that. It just is no sure thing. Nick is also better defensively. Snider is an upgrade over Nick because of the lower salary, age, and upside but I think its far from guaranteed that he will perform as well as Nick will in 2015 and 2016.

Having said that, if the Pirates agree to that deal I'd do it in a second.

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If the Pirates do this I bet they turn Matusz back into a starter. I don't see them trading for him, paying him the salary he'll get this year, and just having him as a middle to late type of reliever, or lefty specialist.

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It kind of worked well. They got a couple of playoff births, then they ended up with the oldest and highest paid team in baseball and very quickly collapsed into a 14-year abyss. If you're not very careful with the resource mix between developing talent/finding cheap talent, and free agency it's easy to slip over the cliff like the 1998 Orioles and the 2014 Phillies. Only a small handful of big teams can rely on free agency instead of carefully treading around its edges and dipping in only with great trepidation.

A lot of the failure of the Orioles can be linked to a very poor farm system from 1979-present.

Nearly all of our homegrown pitching prospects failed to reach expectations and the quality position players have been few and far between .

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