Orioles trade Davies for Parra. Your verdict?

[SteveO]

OK. Even if you take that stance, if he signs during the negotiating window for market value, it can't be with another team. As I said before, that wouldn't have been possible without the trade.

Yea thank god we had that window with Nick and Cruz this offseason without it we would never have convinced them to stay.

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[Babypowder]

Yep.

But I think even if he has an 880 OPS that he wont make the difference.

Yes, this.

[Can_of_corn]

I'm sayin'. And that's not a guy you don't mind trading? Literally anybody can do that job for you. See: Chris Waters.

I expect more then Chris Waters out of him.

You need those guys and if Wright is in the Bullpen I don't know if the O's have one next year.

[Scrat1]

I'd rather watch Gausman, Ubaldo, Gonzo, Tillman, and a sweet free agent starter that we sign in the offseason. We'll see about Davies.

I don't even view Davies as a viable member of the rotation. I just see him as a guy that can pitch at AAA and if the O's need a sport starter for a day or a month they can bring him up.

Right. He's your sixth guy, so you don't have to tear your hair out when one of your starters inevitably goes down with an injury. And that's more or less what he already is. It's quite possible he becomes a legitimate back end starter, but he doesn't have to be that in order to be more valuable than a marginal upgrade of Parra over Snider.

[Babypowder]

I have no idea, man. What do you think I'm a wizard or something?

You're not a wizard?!?

[DrungoHazewood]

You believe the difference between Parra and Snider over the next 60 days is postseason vs. no postseason?

Not likely. But the difference between the wildcard and no wildcard is likely a game or two in the standings. Parra may well be worth a couple wins over Snider, Reimold, etc. Of course there's an untold number of interdependent variables here, so it's impossible to assign direct credit and blame for the players on teams around that wildcard threshold.

[backwardsk]

I think all you're being asked to believe is that this is an upgrade over Travis Snider and Nolan Reimold for a middling pitching prospect.

Not just those guys, but Parmalee. Move Davis back to first.

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[Can_of_corn]

Wilson. Minor league free agent. McFarland. Garcia if we can keep him.

I would rather have Davies then Mac (assuming he isn't miscast as the lefty in the pen next season). I don't think there is a chance in the world that Garcia will be starting in the majors next year.

[weams]

Yea thank god we had that window with Nick and Cruz this offseason without it we would never have convinced them to stay.

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They never extend or sign during the window. Never.

[weams]

So Revere to Toronto.

Revere, Lowe, Tulo, Price.

Let's hear from the AA supporters around here. How is everyone feeling about that?

He Gone!

[mdbdotcom]

I think developing prospective #4 starters in order to trade them at the deadline is a defensible strategy. Maybe he catches on right away in the big leagues, or, maybe it takes him three years to figure it out. I don't see the O's giving a guy three years to figure out how to be a #4. You trade for that guy or find him on a field in Mexico (like Miguel Gonzalez). So, I'm not all upset about giving up Davies. Whether or not Parra is the right guy we will have to see.

[Can_of_corn]

They never extend or sign during the window. Never.

I would be very hesitant to sign someone with his history coming off a career season to a multi-year extension in the first place.

[Enjoy Terror]

Right. He's your sixth guy, so you don't have to tear your hair out when one of your starters inevitably goes down with an injury. And that's more or less what he already is. It's quite possible he becomes a legitimate back end starter, but he doesn't have to be that in order to be more valuable than a marginal upgrade of Parra over Snider.

I don't think Parra is marginal upgrade. I think he's filling in a hole at lead off, moving Chris Davis back to 1B, and removing a ton of at bats from Snyder and Reimold. Will it get us to the playoffs? Maybe, we were already headed that way. Was Davies too much? That depends on what you think Davies' ceiling is and whether you think the Orioles will need him anyway. It also depends if you think his pitching will play in the majors. If we go to the playoffs and Davies doesn't do anything with his career, did we win?

[SteveO]

They never extend or sign during the window. Never.

I know that...was being sarcastic regarding a poster who felt that the window was a benefit to the O's resigning Parra

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[weams]

Ah, but would you trade Davies to watch the O's sneak into the playoffs this year?

Everyone would. Everyone.