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Davis Signs With Baltimore (7/$161M, incl $42M deferred)

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For all those who've indicated otherwise: arguing that Davis' late signing is a no-harm situation is questionable, given that an unknown, but presumably huge, portion of the budget was, for much of the winter, tied up with nowhere to go. Especially considering that the team's biggest need, starting pitching, was probably always going to require a bigger investment than the sums given to guys like Kim, Trumbo, and O'Day. And that need has yet to be addressed.

Taking it a step further and arguing that Davis' delay might be beneficial is just craziness, though. If the O's figure out a way to adequately patch the rotation between now and ST, fine. But if Davis was always an Angelo's inevitability, I'd much rather have the Kim, O'Day, and Trumbo money to put towards at least one upgrade to the starting rotation. And I don't even agree that all/any of those signings wouldn't have happened if Davis re-signed earlier. I know, however, that the FA pitching cupboard wouldn't have been as barren as it now seems to be.

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For all those who've indicated otherwise: arguing that Davis' late signing is a no-harm situation is questionable, given that an unknown, but presumably huge, portion of the budget was, for much of the winter, tied up with nowhere to go. Especially considering that the team's biggest need, starting pitching, was probably always going to require a bigger investment than the sums given to guys like Kim, Trumbo, and O'Day. And that need has yet to be addressed.

Taking it a step further and arguing that Davis' delay might be beneficial is just craziness, though. If the O's figure out a way to adequately patch the rotation between now and ST, fine. But if Davis was always an Angelo's inevitability, I'd much rather have the Kim, O'Day, and Trumbo money to put towards at least one upgrade to the starting rotation. And I don't even agree that all/any of those signings wouldn't have happened if Davis re-signed earlier. I know, however, that the FA pitching cupboard wouldn't have been as barren as it now seems to be.

Given PA's stance on spending for FA SP, we weren't going to spend on Greinke, Price, Zimmerman, or Cueto. After that the rest of the FA SP weren't going to upgrade the rotation. Hold serve at best for too much money and in some cases the loss of the #14 pick.
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For all those who've indicated otherwise: arguing that Davis' late signing is a no-harm situation is questionable, given that an unknown, but presumably huge, portion of the budget was, for much of the winter, tied up with nowhere to go. Especially considering that the team's biggest need, starting pitching, was probably always going to require a bigger investment than the sums given to guys like Kim, Trumbo, and O'Day. And that need has yet to be addressed.

Taking it a step further and arguing that Davis' delay might be beneficial is just craziness, though. If the O's figure out a way to adequately patch the rotation between now and ST, fine. But if Davis was always an Angelo's inevitability, I'd much rather have the Kim, O'Day, and Trumbo money to put towards at least one upgrade to the starting rotation. And I don't even agree that all/any of those signings wouldn't have happened if Davis re-signed earlier. I know, however, that the FA pitching cupboard wouldn't have been as barren as it now seems to be.

Who is arguing that the delay was beneficial? Did I miss someone making that argument?

I can't say if the rest of our offseason would have looked different if Davis had signed in mid-December. I just tend to doubt it.

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Who is arguing that the delay was beneficial? Did I miss someone making that argument?

I can't say if the rest of our offseason would have looked different if Davis had signed in mid-December. I just tend to doubt it.

They didn't say definitely, but they suggested that the Kim, Trumbo, etc. signings might not have happened if Davis had signed earlier.

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Basically what this poll is asking is "who is the best player"? Because that's how people are responding.

Considering that the money in terms of total financial commitment on a yearly basis has very small differences between the 3 players, I am not surprised that people are voting on how they see the player and their potential impact for the team the they signed to.

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Managing partner Peter Angelos and agent Scott Boras worked late into the night of Jan. 15 to complete the final details, including a partial no-trade clause. Boras also had extensive talks with executive vice president Dan Duquette, though it seem"I think this guy is going to play until he's 37," Angelos said earlier today. "This is a real athlete. He's a great defensive first baseman. I'm pleased, I'm delighted. If you look at that lineup, it's enough to scare any opposing team.

"He's an exceptional guy. And it's deserving of the fans who have supported this team in a four-, five-year period without hesitation."

source - Roch Kubatko
So what helped Chris seal the deal? Well, Davis said when Peter Angelos chimed in and said he wanted him back and the large sum contract was strictly for Chris Davis, that was it.
source -CBS Baltimore
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On ‎1‎/‎26‎/‎2016 at 9:35 AM, Frobby said:

MLBTradeRumors readers have been asked to vote on which deal was best: Heyward, Upton or Davis. So far, with more than 18,000 votes counted, its Heyward 44% Upton 39%, Davis 17%. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/01/poll-best-100mm-hitting-contract.html

Too bad Cespedes isn't in the poll.

Upton wins

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